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You do you think he is bonkers?Thread is bonkers like the bloke in the link.
Is the bloke in the link a Muslim?You do you think he is bonkers?
Nevertheless it has become the usual adjective applied in such circumstances whether it be on line or on the streets. Maybe 'grooming' is meant to reflect the soft approach initially used to bait the targets. In fairness the word is pretty apt.But "grooming" is a euphemistic word. Like calling Heroin a recreational stimulant.
In the OP. YeahIs the bloke in the link a Muslim?
Is he part of a rape gang?In the OP. Yeah
No, not that I'm aware ofIs he part of a rape gang?
He’s a Muslim man and I thought you said it’s their culture, religion and Quran to blame.No, not that I'm aware of
Of course. They are slags to the gangs. They are shameful and they have no honour and so for these gangs, the girls get what they deserve and they are taught that they are purer than the girls they abuse but they do target their own communities too if they get the chance...It does seem to me ( from an outside point of view) that there is an issue with the culture at the heart of these communities in which non-muslims are seen as "different" and therefore lesser than their own girls.
...that culture is the problem.When I prosecuted the Rochdale gang, immediately afterwards, I prosecuted the ringleader again for his abuse of a girl of the same ethnicity as him. That didn’t get any publicity and he got 21 years for that. So there are victims from the Asian community but because of issues such as honour, shame, and the fact that very often they’re told by their families that it’s “your fault”, they’re not coming forward.
He said the same in case you didn't listen.He’s a Muslim man and I thought you said it’s their culture, religion and Quran to blame.
Pakistani culture?Of course. They are slags to the gangs. They are shameful and they have no honour and so for these gangs, the girls get what they deserve and they are taught that they are purer than the girls they abuse but they do target their own communities too if they get the chance...
From Nazir Afzal, the prosecuting lawyer in the Rotherham example...
...that culture is the problem.
Honour culture. Shame culture that is embedded in Pakistani culture as well as the countries in that area. We've been through this. You don't agree.He said the same in case you didn't listen.
Pakistani culture?
So is he part of a rape gang?He said the same in case you didn't listen.
Pakistani culture?
Pakistan/afghan,i agree,their concept of honour is odd,a young boy was raped en-route to school by an older boy,so the victims older brother raped the rapist,strange and something we couldn't wrap our heads around.i posted a youtube clip earlier,samira khan talking about a Pakistan lady whose brother slighted some family somehow so a gang went round and raped his sister in revenge.Honour culture. Shame culture that is embedded in Pakistani culture as well as the countries in that area. We've been through this. You don't agree.
D'you know what else is embedded in Pakistani Culture....?Honour culture. Shame culture that is embedded in Pakistani culture as well as the countries in that area. We've been through this. You don't agree.
NoSo is he part of a rape gang?
The Pakistan state uses it as a tool of social control. How many rapists over there feel the full force the Pakistan justice system for their crimes? Or is it kept in house, or families encouraged to take the cash hand-out in return for a prisoner's release or shortened sentence? Or simply not prosecuted?Pakistan/afghan,i agree,their concept of honour is odd,a young boy was raped en-route to school by an older boy,so the victims older brother raped the rapist,strange and something we couldn't wrap our heads around.i posted a youtube clip earlier,samira khan talking about a Pakistan lady whose brother slighted some family somehow so a gang went round and raped his sister in revenge.
But you and him say it a cultural thing, a religious thing and Quran thing.D'you know what else is embedded in Pakistani Culture....?
I'll give you a clue, it appears 4 times in the opening paragraphs
Culture of Pakistan - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Where do you think that honour and shame culture comes from Jon?
No
Take it up with Naz Afsal, senior lawyer. Mind you he was only born in a tribal area of N/W Pakistan where he saw these things first hand so maybe you can teach him a thing or two...D'you know what else is embedded in Pakistani Culture....?
I'll give you a clue, it appears 4 times in the opening paragraphs
Culture of Pakistan - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Where do you think that honour and shame culture comes from Jon?
Not at all.But you and him say it a cultural thing, a religious thing and Quran thing.
Am not being funny but do you not see the flaw in yours and his argument? Like I say it’s bonkers.
So what you are saying that like most people these dirty scum bags pick and choose what they want to believe. So its an individual thing not a religious thing. Welcome aboard mate.Not at all.
You can reject a culture, people reject parts of religion all the time.
Most people nowadays pick and choose what they want to believe from religion.
"I experienced horrific, religiously sanctioned sexual violence and torture " -Ella HillTake it up with Naz Afsal, senior lawyer. Mind you he was only born in a tribal area of N/W Pakistan where he saw these things first hand so maybe you can teach him a thing or two...
I gave my prediction of any enquiry findings top of page 2.
No, what I'm saying is if you want justification for acting like that you can find it in the teachings of Islam.So what you are saying that like most people these dirty scum bags pick and choose what they want to believe. So its an individual thing not a religious thing. Welcome aboard mate.