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Most likely the players know they ain’t going to play for a more high profile or bigger club and if promotion was gained most would be out the door . So they got nowt much to loose only the fans suffering at the moment .
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We are no different to any group of fans. We had the record attendances for a 3rd Division side last year and then increased the number of season tickets this year. That is what potential buyers will look at. When our manager decides to go defensive to get a 0-0 against the 15th placed team and then fails in that quite pathetic mission we have the right to be annoyed - we have and are doing our bit - but carry on using media terms such as toxic if you feel you must.Not a popular opinion but it's a fact we are becoming toxic. The team is woeful and playing without confidence. It's not a lack of effort it's the fact that the team is much weaker than this time last year and even then you could see our weaknesses across the park.
If I was a potential buyer or player and looked at this board I'd be keeping away from the place as it's a career threatening move.
I agreeDifferent sport but the New England Patriots hit booed off at half time yesterday. Not many sets of fans would have put up with what we have without kicking off.
Not a popular opinion but it's a fact we are becoming toxic. The team is woeful and playing without confidence. It's not a lack of effort it's the fact that the team is much weaker than this time last year and even then you could see our weaknesses across the park.
If I was a potential buyer or player and looked at this board I'd be keeping away from the place as it's a career threatening move.
3 likes says it all take a bowNot a popular opinion but it's a fact we are becoming toxic. The team is woeful and playing without confidence. It's not a lack of effort it's the fact that the team is much weaker than this time last year and even then you could see our weaknesses across the park.
If I was a potential buyer or player and looked at this board I'd be keeping away from the place as it's a career threatening move.
I agree that's what I'm saying we are becoming toxicName another club within the last 10 years with a demise comparable to our own and then decide if the fans kicking off is over the top or 'toxic'
Not saying that at all I'm just saying the situation we are in is turning the fans and club toxicAye, it’s all the fans fault....
Which part is incorrect?What an absolute load of TOSH!
Yet you replied which contradicts your postStopped reading at 'it's not a lack of effort'.
It is indeedIt’s more a society thing now. People seem angrier in all walks of life. This board if you post anything against the grain or some information you’ve been told you get abused. That’s the reality.
I never said it was over the top I said we are becoming toxic which we are and understandably soName another club within the last 10 years with a demise comparable to our own and then decide if the fans kicking off is over the top or 'toxic'
It's a fact that we are becoming toxic and understandably so when we have fallen to the depths we are at now.This is literally the club’s lowest point in its entire history - how else do you expect the atmosphere to be around the club?
Those mugs up the road protest at finishing 15th in the Premier League, and yet here we are barely mustering any sort of discontent aside from on social media.
I just can’t comprehend how anyone could say the fans are toxic when this is the worst it’s ever been, and aside from a few boos at the match we're really quite timid as a fan base in showing our discontent.
Yet you replied which contradicts your post
It is indeed
Complete and utter f***ing toshIt’s more a society thing now. People seem angrier in all walks of life. This board if you post anything against the grain or some information you’ve been told you get abused. That’s the reality.
Not totally true Wyke puts the graft in and is still shite and gets grief for it. The same went for Hume earlier in the season.This is Sunderland, where the fans will cheer a committed tackle the way other fans cheer a goal.
Show us the graft, that you're putting in a shift and we will back you to the hilt.
Unfortunately, the current shower of shite have downed tools and that's not acceptable.
You've read the reply. I thought youd stopped reading?No it doesn't.
Not totally true Wyke puts the graft in and is still shite and gets grief for it. The same went for Hume earlier in the season.
The players are just not good enough.
You've read the reply. I thought youd stopped reading?
Not totally true Wyke puts the graft in and is still shite and gets grief for it. The same went for Hume earlier in the season.
The players are just not good enough.
You've read the reply. I thought youd stopped reading?
No but at least you've read it now. ThanksYou said
You said that it's not a lack of effort causing us to be shit. I stopped reading your post and responded to that point. If you couldn't pick up the nuance of my comment then I'll make it easier for you. There is a severe lack of effort, not just on the pitch but clearly in training, in the way the players look after themselves that manifests itself on the pitch. Slow, laboured, no zip, no commitment, players clearly unfit and overweight. They've actually become lazier and slower than they were under Ross which I didn't think was possible! So, in essence, although I didn't read your whole post, I disagree with the bit that I did read.. does that make me toxic?