Market Where?
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Cheers TB. Exactly how I am viewing it. 22 years in the same industry so time for a change. Got a pretty good package including a good training allowance so I will take some time to work out what’s next.
Gunfire on London Bridge
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his family would have raised him. hopefully taught and led him on the correct life path.
i'd like to think they recognised him turning into a radical and had done everything they possibly could to steer him into a more peaceful life.
it's similar to the problem of the feral kids roaming about nowadays with no proper guidance from parents.
it honestly saddens me. god knows what the answer is.
And how many murderers ? There's no easy answer apart from massive prisons with thousands of staff
* Until someone comes along and says one bullet each no doubt*
PNEFC111
Central Defender
I d be happy with the low risk wandering amongst us rather than convicted terrorists- maybe we can arrange a swap.
Fraudulent accountants aren’t likely to attack someone with a dodgy balance sheet.
El Matador
Striker
Teen neo-Nazi became 'living dead'
Yaxley-Lennon got 2.2 % of the vote then slunk out the back door was the reality. You fan boys seem to be well out of step with how just about everyone perceives the tosser.
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errant
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10 years ago this place wanted them strung up...
r@mside
Striker
I guess you mean convicted and released. We've had, and quite possibly still have, an open door policy for some terrorist networks for over 20 years.
Off the top of my head; 7/7, Lee Rigby, Manchester Arena, London Bridge and this latest attack, probably more, are linked to UK supported groups overseas with members allowed to go back and forth to fight.
There are hundreds of them. A Pandora's Box our government has helped create and the way it looks, they've no idea how to put the lid on it.
Weren’t all or at least most of the above British born attackers? I know the security forces are playing a long game here, often letting what are perceived as the smaller fish to swim free in order to try to land the big fish.
It’s time to have a hard clamp down on radicalism of all flavours which will inevitably mean tipping over the apple cart and upsetting a few in the short term, but surely it’s in everyone’s longer term best interests?
errant
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I wouldn’t expect anyone to click this link, but this is a fairly fact based run down of the legal stuff behind how a convicted terrorist (!) was out on the streets on Friday afternoon...
thesecretbarrister.com
It must be decent stuff, who ever runs the boris twitter account pretty much plagiarised the secret barrister...
10 things you should know about the London Bridge attacker and “early release”
No time can be afforded in 2019 to respect the dead. Not when there’s an election at stake, and the tantalising prospect of scoring cheap political points winks coyly at you from a special ad…
thesecretbarrister.com
It must be decent stuff, who ever runs the boris twitter account pretty much plagiarised the secret barrister...
r@mside
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Yes, a lot of the perpetrators were but some of the organisers were foreign and that line of capturing the big fish is spun at us every time our time complicity is raised.
I can't see it stopping while we continue to fund terrorism as a means to exert power as there'll always be a need for back channels which these networks provide.
Mercia Blackcat
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I wouldn’t expect anyone to click this link, but this is a fairly fact based run down of the legal stuff behind how a convicted terrorist (!) was out on the streets on Friday afternoon...
10 things you should know about the London Bridge attacker and “early release”
No time can be afforded in 2019 to respect the dead. Not when there’s an election at stake, and the tantalising prospect of scoring cheap political points winks coyly at you from a special ad…
It must be decent stuff, who ever runs the boris twitter account pretty much plagiarised the secret barrister...
I would bet whoever has plagiarised it has been selective because Boris is being exploitative as that article concludes.
We do not have the same sentencing arrangement in 2019 as we did in 2008. Since 2015 no terrorist will be allowed automatic release. The particular case of Khan is entirely dependent on the decision taken at the Court of Appeal when his sentence was changed from an IPP (indefinite) to Fixed Term. In 2013 the Appeal Judges could have upheld the IPP and in fact today in 2019, around 2500 prisoners are still being held under an IPP sentence even though IPPs were abolished from 2012.
With hindsight, the Appeal Court got it wrong in 2013 but that could not happen today for similar offences, It's not a political issue but a Criminal Justice issue.
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Hep
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Between 1 in 100 and 1 in 70 looking at that then.
Britain is 'home to 35,000 Islamist fanatics', more than any other country in Europe, top official warns
Britain is home to 35,000 Islamist fanatics, more than any other country in Europe, the EU anti-terror chief has said.www.telegraph.co.uk
bit of misrepresentation there.
only 3,000 are of concern (1 in 1,124), 500 are actively being monitored (1 in 6,745) and only 19 are subject to financial sanctions due to terror-related activity (1 in 177,524).
Let me try to explain it a different way, about 90% of child abuse is carried out by men. Men are not the problem, the child-abusing men are the problem. Similarly, for terrorism, Muslims are not the problem, the terrorists are the problem.
If you fall into the trap of blaming an entire religion, you help the terrorists achieve the goal of dividing and conquering.
The Muslim community do try to speak out, but it is rarely reported in the mainstream press (muslim not in our name - Google-Suche), they know they must do more but they are not helped when the press rabble rouse the public into blaming Islam. That just drives a tiny few more Muslims to extremism - wrong as that is.
Standing united is the only way we'll defeat terrorism.
Market Where?
Striker
Yes. Better to be safe than sorry.
Frankel
Winger
NYMackem
Striker
We all know horrible people who have lovely parents. Or where there’s 2 kids and ones a twat and the other’s saintly. Parents can do their best but sometimes, nature beats nurture.
One set of the parents of the 7th July bombing were in bits because of what their little angel did.
