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so why do you think john park-who has never been a dof willbe successful in the role?Logon or register to see this image
He has been set a pretty low barIt will only take 1 poor signing and that John Clark gadgie will be destroyed on here by the usual suspects
He was on fire
contracts dont end until june 30-why would he show up before then?
he probably gets a loyalty bonus to complete the contract. also as the team arent taining now im not sure anyone would be there if he walked in to the aol tomorrow.The knacker better be next season.
I think the lad means him turning up and putting in a performance last season, which he didn't.he probably gets a loyalty bonus to complete the contract. also as the team arent taining now im not sure anyone would be there if he walked in to the aol tomorrow.
i wasnt referring to grigg....though i can why it looked like I was tbf..i was referring to our new signing curtis nelson/.I think the lad means him turning up and putting in a performance last season, which he didn't.
so why do you think john park-who has never been a dof willbe successful in the role?
Indeed he has a good record as achief scout-though I dont claim to know what method he used, wther he was more modern or whether he was old school, whether he relied on the vast network CEltic had or whether he found them, whether as manay managers do, he relied on certain agent mates, or not. A big question would be, Cektic have relatively vast infrastructure for things like academy, medical, etc that are part of a DOfs job..would he have experience of trying to implement those things on a smaller scale?Good question.
The director of football role signifies a philosophy more important to a football club than its current position. The philosophy is greater than the current manager or players. It shows that a club has an ethos or structure in which a club will build or operate.
Park as I incorrectly alluded to had done the role prior, what I meant was, he is highly regarded as being the person spearheading a certain manner of scouting very successfully at Celtic. One that concentrates on finding players, not widely known, available at well below their market value. This manner of scouting is something I believe fits very well into a philosophy that a DOF should be responsible for.
It is only one aspect of philosophy but lends itself well to various other areas of being forward thinking (analytics, integrating academy etc..)
Indeed he has a good record as achief scout-though I dont claim to know what method he used, wther he was more modern or whether he was old school, whether he relied on the vast network CEltic had or whether he found them, whether as manay managers do, he relied on certain agent mates, or not. A big question would be, Cektic have relatively vast infrastructure for things like academy, medical, etc that are part of a DOfs job..would he have experience of trying to implement those things on a smaller scale?
Apart from McLaughlin and McGeady every player on that list is better than what we signed. McCourt and McGinn would have been great signings in League One (past it now). In their prime they'd have walked into the current XI. Neither are strikers. The only striker on there is Dembele who was signed for £500,000 and sold for £20mgrigg is s better player than some of those like...certainly better than mccourt or mcginn...
well tony coton worked at man utd and man city as a scout and coach. the point ith park is, does he know any players at the level safc are at? celtic play in a shit league, but its eueopean football every year and players around the world have heard of them, and because celtic are such a big club in terms of resource, i wonder if the chief scout ever did owt with the academy or the medics, in a small club one is probably closer to all of that, less so at celtic. Thats not to say he wot succeed, just that we arent getting a proven operator.All valid questions on what is completely hypothetical however the very idea of a philosophy and employing someone who has had success in a big job excites me.
Contacts are a funny thing when it comes to scouting, Wenger, for example, had a large amount of "contacts" in many different countries for which the majority of youngsters were found. It's very different to knowing people at Wigan for example. Mignolet bizarrely came from an ex-keeper of Steve Bruces.
Analytics are only as good as those who either create the algorithm or use the data. You still have to have the imagination and stomach to sign players like Ki & Wanyama.
nothing in their respective careers suggest niall mcginn or paddy mccorut are better than will grigg or even morgan for that matter..Apart from McLaughlin and McGeady every player on that list is better than what we signed. McCourt and McGinn would have been great signings in League One (past it now). In their prime they'd have walked into the current XI. Neither are strikers. The only striker on there is Dembele who was signed for £500,000 and sold for £20m
well tony coton worked at man utd and man city as a scout and coach. the point ith park is, does he know any players at the level safc are at? celtic play in a shit league, but its eueopean football every year and players around the world have heard of them, and because celtic are such a big club in terms of resource, i wonder if the chief scout ever did owt with the academy or the medics, in a small club one is probably closer to all of that, less so at celtic. Thats not to say he wot succeed, just that we arent getting a proven operator.
nothing in their respective careers suggest niall mcginn or paddy mccorut are better than will grigg or even morgan for that matter..
i agree with the bprad thrust of what you are saying-and i would be veryptimistic if we were getting him as a chief scout-as he has done that role-but we arent. we are getting him for a role he has never performed.We're getting a proven chief scout from a large European club that has shown success at operating in an intelligent manner in a job that signifies an intention to be clever. I don't know many successful league one directors of football that we could have got, Les Reed perhaps.
Is it guaranteed success, of course not. Nothing ever is. But I for one gain optimism from the thought of us trying as opposed to the current course were on.
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More clueless than Congerton and that is saying something.
Feckin U. S.
You surely don't mean the De Fanti episode??
That crock of shite set us back big time.
Moberg Karlson, Diakite , Roberge, Cabral, Celutska etc etc total f***ing shite.
McCourt played 88 times for Celtic. He played Championship football for Barnsley and Brighton. He's got 18 caps for NI.well tony coton worked at man utd and man city as a scout and coach. the point ith park is, does he know any players at the level safc are at? celtic play in a shit league, but its eueopean football every year and players around the world have heard of them, and because celtic are such a big club in terms of resource, i wonder if the chief scout ever did owt with the academy or the medics, in a small club one is probably closer to all of that, less so at celtic. Thats not to say he wot succeed, just that we arent getting a proven operator.
nothing in their respective careers suggest niall mcginn or paddy mccorut are better than will grigg or even morgan for that matter..
those stats are not that impressive relative to grigg...he has played champo football..aberdeen's level is horridMcCourt played 88 times for Celtic. He played Championship football for Barnsley and Brighton. He's got 18 caps for NI.
Niall McGinn has played 276 games for Aberdeen and has 56 caps NI.
Lewis Morgan has played 17 games of top flight football in Scotland.
Will Grigg has only played 2 seasons outside League One.
I don't know why you are picking those 2 out. But every other player on that list is better than anyone we have signed in the last 2 seasons.
Grigg has played 50 times in the Championship and got 9 goals. The SPL is the same level as League One. Again why are you just taking those 2. What about the rest on that list?those stats are not that impressive relative to grigg...he has played champo football..aberdeen's level is horrid
because the rest of the list is players definitely better than anything safc haveGrigg has played 50 times in the Championship and got 9 goals. The SPL is the same level as League One. Again why are you just taking those 2. What about the rest on that list?