Game of Thrones season 8

The Exile said:
Biggest issue with Dany's turn is that she's spent seven and a half seasons trying desperately not to be The Mad Queen, only to turn for no reason at all after the battle is won.
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She compared the people of Kings Landing to those in Mereen.

In Mereen they overthrew the Masters and worshipped Dany, In Westeros they didn't. She convinced herself that this makes them as bad as the enemy, she isn't seeing herself as burning innocents, she's burning those who stood by while Cersei committed atrocities. Once she realised that Jon was many in Westeros' preferred ruler then she thought that she had to rule by fear, not by worship like in Mereen.

She's not opposed to killing innocents either. In Mereen when she crucified all of the noble men then it was made clear that not all of them were guilty, however she justified it by claiming they stood by while others committed those acts, exactly the same justification she used as those in Kings Landing. She also executed an innocent man to try and scare the Golden Harpies away from attacking her.

Another example is when she found out that Yunkai was financing the Golden Harpies. She wanted to burn all of the city to the ground but had to be convinced not to by her advisors. Now all of her advisors are either dead or she doesn't trust them, meaning that she's more likely to go with her mad tendencies. This is repeated when she first gets to Westeros and is dead set on attacking King's Landing with her Dragons but Tyrion convinces her not to due to the amount of innocent lives that would be lost.

An argument can be made for her descent going a bit too fast, but there is no way that she turned for no reason at all.

She's been like this all along and her madness was gradually building. The fear of everyone choosing Jon rather than her along with all of those closest to her dying or betraying her has just tipped her over the edge.
 
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The Master said:
She compared the people of Kings Landing to those in Mereen.

In Mereen they overthrew the Masters and worshipped Dany, In Westeros they didn't. She convinced herself that this makes them as bad as the enemy, she isn't seeing herself as burning innocents, she's burning those who stood by while Cersei committed atrocities. Once she realised that Jon was many in Westeros' preferred ruler then she thought that she had to rule by fear, not by worship like in Mereen.

She's not opposed to killing innocents either. In Mereen when she crucified all of the noble men then it was made clear that not all of them were guilty, however she justified it by claiming they stood by while others committed those acts, exactly the same justification she used as those in Kings Landing. She also executed an innocent man to try and scare the Golden Harpies away from attacking her.

Another example is when she found out that Yunkai was financing the Golden Harpies. She wanted to burn all of the city to the ground but had to be convinced not to by her advisors. Now all of her advisors are either dead or she doesn't trust them, meaning that she's more likely to go with her mad tendencies. This is repeated when she first gets to Westeros and is dead set on attacking King's Landing with her Dragons but Tyrion convinces her not to due to the amount of innocent lives that would be lost.

An argument can be made for her descent going a bit too fast, but there is no way that she turned for no reason at all.
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That's why I said after the battle is won. More understandable if there was resistance or more of her people were dying.
 
The Master said:
She compared the people of Kings Landing to those in Mereen.

In Mereen they overthrew the Masters and worshipped Dany, In Westeros they didn't. She convinced herself that this makes them as bad as the enemy, she isn't seeing herself as burning innocents, she's burning those who stood by while Cersei committed atrocities. Once she realised that Jon was many in Westeros' preferred ruler then she thought that she had to rule by fear, not by worship like in Mereen.

She's not opposed to killing innocents either. In Mereen when she crucified all of the noble men then it was made clear that not all of them were guilty, however she justified it by claiming they stood by while others committed those acts, exactly the same justification she used as those in Kings Landing. She also executed an innocent man to try and scare the Golden Harpies away from attacking her.

Another example is when she found out that Yunkai was financing the Golden Harpies. She wanted to burn all of the city to the ground but had to be convinced not to by her advisors. Now all of her advisors are either dead or she doesn't trust them, meaning that she's more likely to go with her mad tendencies. This is repeated when she first gets to Westeros and is dead set on attacking King's Landing with her Dragons but Tyrion convinces her not to due to the amount of innocent lives that would be lost.

An argument can be made for her descent going a bit too fast, but there is no way that she turned for no reason at all.

She's been like this all along and her madness was gradually building. The fear of everyone choosing Jon rather than her along with all of those closest to her dying or betraying her has just tipped her over the edge.
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PTSD
 
The Exile said:
That's why I said after the battle is won. More understandable if there was resistance or more of her people were dying.
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True, I don't think it was the best execution but she also killed all of the noble men in Mereen (guilty and innocent) after the battle was won there.

This is a similar decision on a much larger scale.
 
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Just one little thing on her burning the shit out of everything.

In the same conversations about "taking Kinds Landing peacefully" and when talking about the bells etc, she said that Cerci would target their weaknesses - I assumed she meant that they'd try not to kill everyone, and that Cerci would use tricks like pretending to surrender against them.
 
PTR said:
Just one little thing on her burning the shit out of everything.

In the same conversations about "taking Kinds Landing peacefully" and when talking about the bells etc, she said that Cerci would target their weaknesses - I assumed she meant that they'd try not to kill everyone, and that Cerci would use tricks like pretending to surrender against them.
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It was telegraphed about 5 times that the bells could be a trick, yet some on here wont hear of it.

Also in no way was it premeditated, as you could see that from her face, she went with her instincts at the time. I dont blame her at all for that.
 
Baloo said:
Anyone else get tickets for the immersive screening experience for the finale in Newcastle?
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Second to last episode is always the best and the last is filler. Prepare for a philosophical treatise on war for an hour and 18 minutes which is concluded following a brief discussion on the human soul, power and agricultural innovation in the middle ages.
 
Yankee Mackem said:
Second to last episode is always the best and the last is filler. Prepare for a philosophical treatise on war for an hour and 18 minutes which is concluded following a brief discussion on the human soul, power and agricultural innovation in the middle ages.
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All this with a bit of an open ending to make room for firing up the old cash cow a few years down the road when the spin off shows have all jumped the shark.
 

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