Game of Thrones season 8



Been enjoying it but didn't really know what to think after that episode. I did enjoy it, but I wasn't thinking it was amazing when it finished.

They've been building towards Dany going that way all season. The ease of dealing with the fleet of ships and the Golden Company were more out of kilter with the way things have been going than her going off on one with her dragon.
 
If it wasnt for the special effects, more people would see how poor this season has been, from consistency, plot, writing and purpose. Most of what has gone before is completely irrelevant or not explained. They have created an ending and shoe horned the story to coincide with it in 6 episodes. Jon has been nigh on useless since he has come back to life, seemingly only to make things worse. Bronn randomly written into a scene for no real reason, aryas invincibility and conatant flicking between fighter and coward. Bran having no real impact on story apart from the night king ark that has never really been explained etc.

Just seems a waste of 7 seasons of buildup to hammer a quick ending through so they can start on miniseries and their next project
 
MorpethMackem07 said:
So she has a messiah complex but can easily be talked round by other people?

I’ve seen some reaching, not quite as bad as the ‘reserves’ reason for why half the Dothraki and Unsullied are still around but I think you’re going out of your way to justify your favourite show.

I disagree, she has cared about the oppressed and hasn’t always done what she’s done just to be worshipped. I’ll agree with you that she has a hugely inflated sense of self importance and righteous indignation but she has always had a weakness for helping the defenceless, she even buckled two of her dragons away because they toasted a little girl.

Literally 2 episodes ago she sacrificed HALF (hahaha right) her army to save the living when she could have done a Cersei and not bothered. I think her fall from Grace has come incredibly quick when she starts toasting civvies for no good reason when she had already won. This descent from 2 to 200 needed more time to cook in my opinion
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If she didn’t bother sacrificing her army then there would be no armies left. The Night King would have just killed everyone. Also she has hardly “easily” been talked down by others, the slavers in Mereen and burning the Tarlys alive are just two examples where she ignored advice. Along with going for Kings Landing early without letting everyone recover.

You’re right that the descent needed a bit more time, I’m more so disagreeing with those that claim this is completely the opposite of where her story should have gone, when it’s been obvious from season 2.

I posted before a comment where George R.R. Martin claimed it was correct where it basically says Dany was using the slaves as justification for her violence but now in Westeros there is no slaves so she doesn’t have that justification anymore however she still does it anyway.

Also it was very clearly stated by Dany that she feels like the peasants of kings landing should have overthrown Cersei like the people of Mereen did, basically saying they are as good as the enemy because they didn’t.

I agree that I’m probably reaching with the messiah complex angle but the rest not at all, especially when the writer of the show himself agreed that saving the slaves was a moral justification for her actions but one that she didn’t need to still commit those acts.
 
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The Master said:
If she didn’t bother sacrificing her army then there would be no armies left. The Night King would have just killed everyone. Also she has hardly “easily” been talked down by others, the slavers in Mereen and burning the Tarlys alive are just two examples where she ignored advice. Along with going for Kings Landing early without letting everyone recover.

You’re right that the descent needed a bit more time, I’m more so disagreeing with those that claim this is completely the opposite of where her story should have gone, when it’s been obvious from season 2.

I posted before a comment where George R.R. Martin claimed it was correct where it basically says Dany was using the slaves as justification for her violence but now in Westeros there is no slaves so she doesn’t have that justification anymore however she still does it anyway.

Also it was very clearly stated by Dany that she feels like the peasants of kings landing should have overthrown Cersei like the people of Mereen did, basically saying they are as good as the enemy because they didn’t.

I agree that I’m probably reaching with the messiah complex angle but the rest not at all, especially when the writer of the show himself agreed that saving the slaves was a moral justification for her actions but one that she didn’t need to still commit those acts.
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Absolutely right.
 
Travis said:
The only disappointing thing was the manner of Cersei and Jaimie death but it showed how we were coerced into thinking Dany was the “breaker of chains” and the rightful heir and Cersei was the evil queen. From the moment Dany realises she isn’t the rightful heir her facade starts to come down and she loses the plot. Thought that was quite obvious from the last couple of episodes. The city burning was full on and shocking which it needed to be for us to go into the final episode with one final story arc to end. Who will sit on the iron throne. Jon vs Dany. We’ve had 5 full length movies almost not sure needed more.
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John will go North of the wall, He doesn't want it.
 
Jaime is the only thing that's annoyed me really. His story arc makes no sense- what was the point of the last 5 seasons? He spent year upon year gradually turning good then at the end just goes "na fuck it, I shouldn't have bothered."
 
Tommasi said:
Jaime is the only thing that's annoyed me really. His story arc makes no sense- what was the point of the last 5 seasons? He spent year upon year gradually turning good then at the end just goes "na fuck it, I shouldn't have bothered."
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Agreed, Dany’s made sense it was just a bit rushed.

Jaime’s was just really weird, not really any payoff for him at all.
 
Tommasi said:
Jaime is the only thing that's annoyed me really. His story arc makes no sense- what was the point of the last 5 seasons? He spent year upon year gradually turning good then at the end just goes "na fuck it, I shouldn't have bothered."
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His story made sense - went back for true love, unfortunately it was his evil sister but there you go, love is blind.
 
Jons messed up badly. Took the knee to a maniac. The North is never going to trust him.now. It's probably north of the wall for him at best. Tyrion is going to have to become his brother and be the Kingslayer whilst Sansa rules from winterfell.
 
Tommasi said:
Maybe him and Cerscei will have a lend of Aryas 9 lives- theyll wake up in the next episode and he will throttle her or something :lol:
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I think they missed a trick not killing her off when the dragon was approaching from behind. You knew what was going to happen and that's what made it worse to see the torture of knowing a popular character was going to die.

Danys killing the hero of the battle of Winterfell.i was gutted till I seen her pop back up :lol:

Took a little away from what could have been an amazing ending for that character but best TV episode I ever watched definetly.
 
The Master said:
If she didn’t bother sacrificing her army then there would be no armies left. The Night King would have just killed everyone. Also she has hardly “easily” been talked down by others, the slavers in Mereen and burning the Tarlys alive are just two examples where she ignored advice. Along with going for Kings Landing early without letting everyone recover.

You’re right that the descent needed a bit more time, I’m more so disagreeing with those that claim this is completely the opposite of where her story should have gone, when it’s been obvious from season 2.

I posted before a comment where George R.R. Martin claimed it was correct where it basically says Dany was using the slaves as justification for her violence but now in Westeros there is no slaves so she doesn’t have that justification anymore however she still does it anyway.

Also it was very clearly stated by Dany that she feels like the peasants of kings landing should have overthrown Cersei like the people of Mereen did, basically saying they are as good as the enemy because they didn’t.

I agree that I’m probably reaching with the messiah complex angle but the rest not at all, especially when the writer of the show himself agreed that saving the slaves was a moral justification for her actions but one that she didn’t need to still commit those acts.
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Yeah can’t really argue with any of that, I shouldn’t have been so hostile to your post to be honest I’m just so sad that a show I’ve invested so much time in is unraveling in front of my eyes for me.

Certain people were warning of this in season 7 (especially around the time when the fellowship of the Living went North of the Wall and were saved by Gendry teleporting to Castle Black ) but I didn’t listen because I was enjoying it still. Ever since Episode 3 of this season I’ve lost it and it gets worse and worse for me.

Oh well.

Banks said:
I think they missed a trick not killing her off when the dragon was approaching from behind. You knew what was going to happen and that's what made it worse to see the torture of knowing a popular character was going to die.

Danys killing the hero of the battle of Winterfell.i was gutted till I seen her pop back up :lol:

Took a little away from what could have been an amazing ending for that character but best TV episode I ever watched definetly.
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I like that actually, there would have been a delicious irony in her indiscriminately killing people left, right and centre only for it to become apparent she torched the hero of Winterfell during her mad rage. Would have made the event in episode 6 we all know is coming much more meaningful.
 
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I contrast to a lot of views, I think what they did with Drogon was quite cleverly written. They’ve been making out that the dragons are these super weapons for years now, and now we finally see that they actually are. The one that got killed was ambushed, and given a bit of practice they are pretty good at dodging the arrows. The whole Golden Company thing was that they were super soldiers, but they were frazzled in seconds when up against a dragon. Turns out you can win a war with air power alone after all.
 
Dave Herbal said:
I contrast to a lot of views, I think what they did with Drogon was quite cleverly written. They’ve been making out that the dragons are these super weapons for years now, and now we finally see that they actually are. The one that got killed was ambushed, and given a bit of practice they are pretty good at dodging the arrows. The whole Golden Company thing was that they were super soldiers, but they were frazzled in seconds when up against a dragon. Turns out you can win a war with air power alone after all.
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Totally agree Nobodys picking up on Danys flew behind the catapults this time either.

They couldn't move the catapults quick enough
 

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