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niceonemarra said:
There is conclusive and concrete evidence.

I said its true so its true right the Aliens are out there, does it really matter how close or far away from us they are?
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Oh well, if you say it's true... :lol:

Yes, it matters how far away they are. There are people in the world making a fortune ripping off the gullible, either by writing books, making documentaries or creating websites full of lies.

With the size of the universe, in my opinion it's highly improbable that we're the only planet that contains life and it's very unlikely that we're the only sentient beings. However we still can't say for certain that aliens are flying around in spaceships or even that there is life on other planets if we want to remain scientific about it. And personally, I do wish to remain scientific about it.

I will jump for joy on the day we have definitive proof. Until we do, anyone that says aliens definitely exist is either a liar or a loon.

niceonemarra said:
Either the Roswell news paper report was real or the news paper agency was doing a whoosh.

Nobody on this forum can explain why a crashed flying saucer was reported in mainstream news and the next day changed the story to a weather balloon


He wasn't he saw a UFO that's all so why do you say he got taken by the aliens?
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I can.

Possibility 1:
Some loon reported it as a flying saucer, the paper wrote the story to sell papers, then by the next day they knew it was bollocks.

Possibility 2:
The US military were testing a secret aircraft that crashed, the reporter had never seen anything like it and said it was an alien craft, then the military told them to shut the fuck up because they didn't want their secret project revealed to the Russkies.

Both are a million times more likely than "aliens came all the way to Earth from light years away in a flimsy little two seater that was so poorly constructed that it crashed in the Nevada desert".
 
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Bob Lazar and Dr Stephen Greer for me. Lazar recently did a decent documentary, it was decent and so did Greer abut a 6inch Alien looking skeleton that was tested on here in the UK, I think it was the UK anyway.

My interest in the subject is fading. I'm more interested in how get better than 1-1 results so we can get the hell out of this league.
 
gards2 said:
Bob Lazar and Dr Stephen Greer for me. Lazar recently did a decent documentary, it was decent and so did Greer abut a 6inch Alien looking skeleton that was tested on here in the UK, I think it was the UK anyway.

My interest in the subject is fading. I'm more interested in how get better than 1-1 results so we can get the hell out of this league.
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This one?

Mystery of 'alien' skeleton solved - CNN

"Looks weird, must be aliens!" ("hehehe this will make me a few quid")

Oh, surprise, it isn't. ("Ah well, there's no money in making a documentary about it not being an alien so I won't bother correcting myself or retracting the original documentary.")
 
niceonemarra said:
Either the Roswell news paper report was real or the news paper agency was doing a whoosh.

Nobody on this forum can explain why a crashed flying saucer was reported in mainstream news and the next day changed the story to a weather balloon.
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I'll give it a shot.

Area 51 is a known bio/chem warfare site. In 1944 the Japanese developed a balloon system for deploying said weapons using the slipstream at low cost. The technology was based on high altitude weather baloons. A few years after the war a mysterious object crashes near area 51. It's later described as a weather balloon to allay fears.
 
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I'll give it a shot.

Area 51 is a known bio/chem warfare site. In 1944 the Japanese developed a balloon system for deploying said weapons using the slipstream at low cost. The technology was based on high altitude weather baloons. A few years after the war a mysterious object crashes near area 51. It's later described as a weather balloon to allay fears.
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Been reading about it on wiki, apparently it was one of these weather balloons..

Project Mogul (sometimes referred to as Operation Mogul) was a
top secret project by the US Army Air Forces involving microphones flown on high-altitude balloons, whose primary purpose was long-distance detection of sound waves generated by Soviet atomic bomb tests. The project was carried out from 1947 until early 1949. It was a classified portion of an unclassified project by New York University (NYU) atmospheric researchers.[1] The project was moderately successful, but was very expensive and was superseded by a network of seismic detectors and air sampling for fallout, which were cheaper, more reliable, and easier to deploy and operate.

Project Mogul was conceived by Maurice Ewing who had earlier researched the deep sound channel in the oceans and theorized that a similar sound channel existed in the upper atmosphere: a certain height where the air pressure and temperature result in minimal speed of sound, so that sound waves would propagate and stay in that channel due to refraction. The project involved arrays of balloons carrying disc microphones and radio transmitters to relay the signals to the ground. It was supervised by James Peoples, who was assisted by Albert P. Crary.

One of the requirements of the balloons was that they maintain a relatively constant altitude over a prolonged period of time. Thus instrumentation had to be developed to maintain such constant altitudes, such as pressure sensors controlling the release of ballast.

The early Mogul balloons consisted of large clusters of rubber meteorological balloons, however, these were quickly replaced by enormous balloons made of polyethylene plastic. These were more durable, leaked less helium, and also were better at maintaining a constant altitude than the early rubber balloons. Constant-altitude-control and polyethylene balloons were the two major innovations of Project Mogul.


Roswell incident
Main article: Roswell UFO incident
In the summer of 1947 a Project Mogul balloon, probably NYU Flight 4 launched June 4, 1947,[1] crashed in the desert near Roswell, New Mexico. The subsequent military cover-up of the true nature of the balloon and burgeoning conspiracy theories from UFO enthusiasts led to a celebrated "UFO" incident.[3]

Unlike a weather balloon, the Project Mogul paraphernalia was massive and contained unusual types of materials, according to research conducted by The New York Times: "...squadrons of big balloons ... It was like having an elephant in your backyard and hoping that no one would notice it. ... To the untrained eye, the reflectors looked extremely odd, a geometrical hash of lightweight sticks and sharp angles made of metal foil. .. photographs of it, taken in 1947 and published in newspapers, show bits and pieces of what are obviously collapsed balloons and radar reflectors."[4]
 
niceonemarra said:
Yes I've seen it marra, I've been studying the UFOs - pro tip if you are going into the rabbit hole of UFOs look for the most popular credible witnesses first.
2001 Disclosure Project
Rendlesham Forest
Phoenix Lights
Rodwell I mean Roswell
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Will get on that tonight mate. TY :cool:
 
I've asked the guy who took those photos to join this place to share his stuff, its amazing he has a 4 grand telescope and has ordered an upgrade.

he lives in America
 
Of course there are Aliens here on Earth, there has been for thousands of years.
The proof is insurmountable, there is conclusive and concrete evidence.

They live on the opposite side of the flat earth that we live on.
They have tried during all this time to be discreet and keep their presence secret in case they cause worldwide panic.

Unfortunately some of their unruly teenagers have sneaked over to our side to prank us, like helping primitive man to build giant stone triangular shaped things, scratching long strait lines in remote deserts, or creating corn circles.

For hundreds of years now a debate has raged among them if they would not be better off returning home.
After a referendum it was decided that they leave.
The last hundred years or so they’ve been debating the best way to do this.
 
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