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England v India 4th Test

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That absolute chancer Ed Smith just kills me. How the fuck did he end up chairman of selectors, or whatever that position is called now? He spent his entire time since retiring writing cod psychology as far as I can see.
 
smoker said:
The hesitancy is painful.

How can he play confidently against the likes of Morkel, Philander and Ashwin in County Cricket but look clueless against them in test cricket?

That has to be coaching...?
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I’d say more a mental thing than technical if put it like that.

Far more pressure playing in a test match as you know that any innings could be your last, at county level there’s always another one round the corner.

Also I’d say the bowlers mentioned will bowl with far more intensity in international cricket than in domestic.
 
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I’d say more a mental thing than technical if put it like that.

Far more pressure playing in a test match as you know that any innings could be your last, at county level there’s always another one round the corner.

Also I’d say the bowlers mentioned will bowl with far more intensity in international cricket than in domestic.
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It's mental for most of them.

But it's technical too for Jennings - and maybe Cook. I think his reactions are slowing... Or his eyes. One of them.
 
Comeback_Kenwyne said:
It's mental for most of them.

But it's technical too for Jennings - and maybe Cook. I think his reactions are slowing... Or his eyes. One of them.
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I don’t doubt the technical issues as well I was just responding to how they cope with such bowlers on the county circuit.

Cool has always had issues with the full ball but has always been very strong mentally and waited for balls in his scoring areas. I’d say his powers of concentration which were a vital part of his game are on the wane. His dismissal today was very poor.
 
steven said:
That absolute chancer Ed Smith just kills me. How the fuck did he end up chairman of selectors, or whatever that position is called now? He spent his entire time since retiring writing cod psychology as far as I can see.
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Because he's a posh public school boy.

Excellent from Sam Curran. Stating the bleeding obvious but we need an opener who will bore the pants off the opposition. The modern game doesn't seem to produce them anymore however.
 
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I wouldn't be too harsh on Smith, his selections of Buttler and Sam Curran have proven decent.

It feels like they're just playing like a bunch of individuals with no grand plan.
 
Mrjardine said:
I’d say more a mental thing than technical if put it like that.

Far more pressure playing in a test match as you know that any innings could be your last, at county level there’s always another one round the corner.

Also I’d say the bowlers mentioned will bowl with far more intensity in international cricket than in domestic.
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I agree with it being mental rather than technical.. apart from Jennings :lol:.

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I don’t doubt the technical issues as well I was just responding to how they cope with such bowlers on the county circuit.

Cool has always had issues with the full ball but has always been very strong mentally and waited for balls in his scoring areas. I’d say his powers of concentration which were a vital part of his game are on the wane. His dismissal today was very poor.
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Definitely about his concentration like, Would he have got himself out like that 2/3 years ago?, Once we has in he would bat for hours on end and has never had a rock solid technique but grafted his way by force of will. He seemed to play spin better too.
 
Mrjardine said:
I don’t doubt the technical issues as well I was just responding to how they cope with such bowlers on the county circuit.

Cool has always had issues with the full ball but has always been very strong mentally and waited for balls in his scoring areas. I’d say his powers of concentration which were a vital part of his game are on the wane. His dismissal today was very poor.
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I think the difference, mentally, is you can get lucky at county level. Ok, so Morkel is at one end but who is at the other? Unlikely to be test class - so you can dig in and get lucky. The mental pressure of test is that you have to did in for 20-30 overs sometimes, not five or six at one end.

India, since Bumrah has come back, have a very good attack. Sami is a useful bowler and Bumrah is a real handful. Then Ashwin is the best off spinner in the world.

The one that frustrates me is Sharma. Yes, he bowls balls that look unplayable to the left hander - but he is essentially so much a one trick pony that unless the pitch is misbehaving (or there's a slope like Lords, where his record is exceptional iirc) then you can play for it.

Lord knows the middle order left handers seem to be able to do it and whilst the new ball is nippier, I think Cook and Jennings have been poor against him.

Something has gone with Cook definitely. If you take out the couple of double tonnes he's had, his record has been dire. That's fine for a middle order batsman who is there to make match-winner contributions, but it's better to have an opener who gets consistent fifties. Sets the whole innings up.

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I wouldn't be too harsh on Smith, his selections of Buttler and Sam Curran have proven decent.

It feels like they're just playing like a bunch of individuals with no grand plan.
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The top order problem is intractable really. We have a competitive bowling attack (at home) and an decent middle order. I'm not sure what he can do about the top order. It's easy for us all to say Gubbins, Burns - but before that we were saying Stoneman, Jennings, whoever. We get behind the next option but it's no guarantee it'll work. Nobody wants it, or is good enough. So far anyway.
 
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Some excellent comments on here from a range of posters about technique and difference between county cricket and test cricket. Jennings has a clear technical flaw which will get him out if bowlers bowl consistently at a 4th stump line. At test cricket bowlers just give him nothing other than deliveries that test that technique. As mentioned previously at county cricket you can bide your time, get through a tricky spell and you know weaker bowlers will come into the attack at some stage. Once a weakness in your technique gets exposed time and time it effects you mentally and this is what has happened with Jennings n recent knocks. It’s also worth mentioning that Jennings has only really had one great season at county level. I just don’t think he’s good enough which is a shame because he seems a top lad
 
rentaghost said:
Some excellent comments on here from a range of posters about technique and difference between county cricket and test cricket. Jennings has a clear technical flaw which will get him out if bowlers bowl consistently at a 4th stump line. At test cricket bowlers just give him nothing other than deliveries that test that technique. As mentioned previously at county cricket you can bide your time, get through a tricky spell and you know weaker bowlers will come into the attack at some stage. Once a weakness in your technique gets exposed time and time it effects you mentally and this is what has happened with Jennings n recent knocks. It’s also worth mentioning that Jennings has only really had one great season at county level. I just don’t think he’s good enough which is a shame because he seems a top lad
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Yes, this is exactly correct.

I think it'll be time to try the next one soon - Burns will surely be in at his home ground. Jennings is utterly shot. It's a shame for the lad because he's done at this level, I think. But he'll always have his ton on debut - not many can say that.

Gubbins will be in soon, too - can we really see Cook toughing out a winter tour? Does he need that knowing he's no longer himself? He's stubborn as a mule - and I think he'd like one more ton to go out on a high. But no, sadly, I think this is his last hurrah too.

The biggest concern in a way though is Root. Jennings aside, he looks the worst technically at the moment. He's never once looked scratchy in his entire career, but his head is falling away very badly now. He's dire at the moment - and it doesn't matter where he bats, three or four, he looks shot too. He really needs this series victory or I can see him jacking in the captaincy, I really can.

We are a mess and I really can only see a miracle Anderson performance saving this series. I can't see any other way we win - Curran, Stokes, Ali have some magic in them I guess too, but can't see it somehow.
 
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