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England v India 4th Test

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Mr Redknapp said:
Moeen is class to watch for all his faults :lol:

You aren't winning test matches batting like this.

Cook's concentration seems to have gone.
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Moeen is a better batsman than Buttler generally and Stokes at the moment. He should be in the team, always, even if its down at eight (it shouldn't be: he should always be ahead of Buttler) because he's also our best spinner. Or at least it's close enough between him and Leach for his all-round ability to carry the day. Certainly in England where it's rarely a factor.

The top order is the problem. They've been shite for ages and the middle/lower order bails them out time and again. It's even worse this series because Root is chronically out of form too.

If we have to pick from four down: Root, Bairstow, plus the three all-rounders and Woakes/Curran coming it at nine, so be it. We should stop f***ing around and pick them.

I'd like us to be more attacking - but until we find two new top order players, we can't.

Cook is shot. Should hang it up at end of series, before he gets shoved.
 
Comeback_Kenwyne said:
Moeen is a better batsman than Buttler generally and Stokes at the moment. He should be in the team, always, even if its down at eight (it shouldn't be: he should always be ahead of Buttler) because he's also our best spinner. Or at least it's close enough between him and Leach for his all-round ability to carry the day. Certainly in England where it's rarely a factor.

The top order is the problem. They've been shite for ages and the middle/lower order bails them out time and again. It's even worse this series because Root is chronically out of form too.

If we have to pick from four down: Root, Bairstow, plus the three all-rounders and Woakes/Curran coming it at nine, so be it. We should stop f***ing around and pick them.

I'd like us to be more attacking - but until we find two new top order players, we can't.

Cook is shot. Should hang it up at end of series, before he gets shoved.
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It's not a kneejerk with Cook mate, if you take away his double hundreds recently he averages 17 (before this innings) His technique was never great but his main weapon was his mental concentration and toughness.

Andy Jacobs was right, this teams batting is getting worse under Bayliss.
 
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When was the last time we lost back to back Tests at home? SA 2012? SA 2008?

Another feather in the cap for Bayliss. Sure it's a joke him and his convict mates have cooked up.
 
Comeback_Kenwyne said:
I think Burns is the three. He can weigh anchor and let the shotmakers play around him.



You can make an argument for it. But he's fulfilling his brief isn't he? Which is not connected to the test team, but more ODI focused. I honestly think we could be the best ODI team of all time.

What I would say is: I'd like to know exactly what it is Ramprakash is doing. I'd peddle him because I think a message needs to be sent.

And you can look at him two ways, can't you? You can say - no mate, coaches don't do much, no point. To which I say, well why the fuck are we paying handsomely to do nothing?

Or you can say he makes a difference, if not technically, then at least tactically/mentally in terms of the mindset he tries to encourage from our batsmen. That's the way I see it: too much of this "play your game, be yourself, let's play attacking cricket - that's our brand". Well, bollocks: you can't play attacking cricket very often in England because of the moving ball: that's the rope the Aussies keep hanging themselves on.
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That's spot on IMO.

International coaches should not be helping players with basic technique but they should be advising them on how to handle situational stuff like when to dig in and when to attack, how to counter an opposition bowler's tactics and identifying any minor flaws for correction e.g. Cook going after balls outside off stump that pose no danger to his stumps.

Bayliss is a short format specialist and his mantra has always been 'fearless cricket', play your 'natural game' and delegating on-field tactics to the captain. That works fine in the ODI team, where there's only so many ways to play the game and he has an experienced skipper but Joe is fresh, lacks first class captaincy experience and notthat tactically savvy to fill the vacuum.

Discopants91 said:
Curran about to get more than the top six combined...
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Single handedly rescued the innings from pathetic to just crap.

SAFC 2012 said:
India have absolutely zero problems getting our top order our but our tailenders cause massive problems :lol:
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Because bowlers tire and the ball gets old. It should be the job of the openers to wear them out. Trev thinks it's smashing the ball about like David Warner.
 
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