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[Temptation88]

Whatever the reason we certainly do though. I was at derby when we were in the championship and Swansea and Southampton this season. Derby was relentless all the way through and no team who came to Newcastle that season was anything like that

Swansea and Southampton were both 4pm kick offs on a Sunday but both sold out and the atmosphere was bouncing. Swansea and Southampton would of took 1,000 max up here in the same situation and sat down and maybe sang 1 song all game.

Different level man

 

[Bladecat]

Haha yeah we are like! There's a noticeable difference in passion between both Newcastle and Sunderlands away support to the rest of the country. Both way more passionate and boisterous than the likes of West Brom Southampton Everton etc who just sit in silence most the time at away games. Daft to think otherwise. Why the north east always gets called the most passionate support as well

Bit of a stereotype....Watford sang a lot more at the SoL than your lot did when you got stuffed 3 nil.

Generally I'd agree though....there's a correlation between the amount of drink consumed by North East fans and their vocal support at away games.

Everton have always had good away support and West Brom's whilst not great in numbers have always been decent. They probably don't sing at your place cos they can't see what's happening from their shite seats.

 

[Mr B]

We've never been in the 3rd tier but id guess we as of now get around 22k not that i give a fuck

You can only go on facts, and the last time you were near the bottom of the 2nd tier of English football, Newcastle’s support dropped to 11-16,000. You were then took over, had a massive cash injection which revitalised your club at a time when no other club were spending money on that scale. That gamble never paid off as you won absolutely nowt.

Poor Mike Ashley then had to pick up the debt from that spending spree and save your club from possible administration, for which he is now detested, unless I’m mistaken.

If Newcastle were in the position that Sunderland were in at that time, whilst Sunderland were spending cash and qualifying for Europe, would Newcastle’s fan base be as full of sh!t as they are today?

34k is the lowest pl gate I can find Newcastle having. Positive we have never had below 30k in the pl and like I said the only club to do so

If you want to ignore anything pre 1992, then I assume that you will be ignoring everything that your club has ever won in it’s history, apart from your inter toto certificate.

Sorry, but football did exist prior to 1992.

 

[minkey]

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What a genuinely wonderful article!

We had waddle !

What’s set is apart..... you have just mentioned us winning the top tier 6 times you bellend!

 

[Binxy]

- Newcastle have finished as the Football League's best supported club on no fewer than 10 occasions, whereas Sunderland have never finished as the League's best supported club:

Man Utd 34;
Everton 13;
Arsenal 12;
Newcastle/Chelsea 10;
Aston Villa/Liverpool 7;
Spurs 6;
Man City 3.

Surprise, surprise clubs from big cities with huge populations are the leagues best supported clubs.

I reckon Short spent more on players in his time at Sunderland than Ashley has spent on Newcastle players mind, it was only in the last two year or so Short stopped spending money, Ashley has not been spending money for about ten years now. The way you lot go on about him not spending a penny when you went down to the championship is ridiculous considering the amount he spent before that. You should never have got into that position in the first place.

Ashley - £316m
Short - £235m

Ashleys biggest season spend - £75m
Shorts biggest season spend - £34m

Ashleys record signing - £14.5m
Shorts record signing - £13.6m

Also take into consideration Newcastle will be paying higher wages. You're talking shite.

 

[Benjamin]

Surprise, surprise clubs from big cities with huge populations are the leagues best supported clubs.


Ashley - £316m
Short - £235m

Ashleys biggest season spend - £75m
Shorts biggest season spend - £34m

Ashleys record signing - £14.5m
Shorts record signing - £13.6m

Also take into consideration Newcastle will be paying higher wages. You're talking shite.

Nice try but that’s not net spend , I know Sunderland fans don’t believe in net spend for some reason but the rest of the footballing world does.

 

[Mr B]

Nice try but that’s not net spend , I know Sunderland fans don’t believe in net spend for some reason but the rest of the footballing world does.

Love a good net spend story.

So are you telling me that if Benitez sold a few players for £200m and Ashley gave him all of it to spend and he spent it on shit and you got relegated, it wouldn’t be Benitez’s fault as he hasn’t been given any money to spend?

 

[Father Jack Hackett]

What a genuinely wonderful article!

We had waddle !

What’s set is apart..... you have just mentioned us winning the top tier 6 times you bellend!

It has to be a Sunderland fan. Not only for sit mention that but, us beating them 6 times in a row and being shit but still getting decent crowds whilst having very non-bile filled digs at us.

 

[prideofhylton]

Shit rag shit patter shit fans to absorb it

well said young man

 

[Temptation88]

Love a good net spend story.

So are you telling me that if Benitez sold a few players for £200m and Ashley gave him all of it to spend and he spent it on shit and you got relegated, it wouldn’t be Benitez’s fault as he hasn’t been given any money to spend?

That's different. He means invenstment in the team. If we have a 50m transfer budget now then sell lascelles for 30m and only spend 30m and that 50m reminds untouched it means we have invested zero into the squad from what we have now. Spent 30m yes but not invested any money extra.

I'm sure Short has invested far more in Sunderland than Ashley has in Newcastle. I think you are right up there in net spend in the last 10 years and we are about even.

So if we are about level for player trading in 10 years where has all them years of tv money and huge ticket sales etc gone

well said young man

A smb saying Newcastle have shit fans the bitterness and jealousy is off the scale​

 

[offmenut]

Whatever the reason we certainly do though. I was at derby when we were in the championship and Swansea and Southampton this season. Derby was relentless all the way through and no team who came to Newcastle that season was anything like that

Swansea and Southampton were both 4pm kick offs on a Sunday but both sold out and the atmosphere was bouncing. Swansea and Southampton would of took 1,000 max up here in the same situation and sat down and maybe sang 1 song all game.

Different level man

Have you thought it’s becsuse of the place you put the away fans.
f***ing shit up there. No craic with the home fans, f***ing shit away day for most supporters.
Same as fans going to our place , especially next season.
And btw, NUFC fans wouldn’t be in my top 3 at the SoL, even back to the days when you didn’t lose, you never sang and made as much noise as Man U (and others) away support

 

[Benjamin]

Love a good net spend story.

So are you telling me that if Benitez sold a few players for £200m and Ashley gave him all of it to spend and he spent it on shit and you got relegated, it wouldn’t be Benitez’s fault as he hasn’t been given any money to spend?

Daft argument really, he was given about £35 million last summer to keep a championship team in the division and he somehow managed to finish 10th. Not that Ashley would ever give him £200 million but if he did I reckon he would improve on that and not get relegated.

 

[Binxy]

That's different. He means invenstment in the team. If we have a 50m transfer budget now then sell lascelles for 30m and only spend 30m and that 50m reminds untouched it means we have invested zero into the squad from what we have now. Spent 30m yes but not invested any money extra.

I'm sure Short has invested far more in Sunderland than Ashley has in Newcastle. I think you are right up there in net spend in the last 10 years and we are about even.

So if we are about level for player trading in 10 years where has all them years of tv money and huge ticket sales etc gone

A smb saying Newcastle have shit fans the bitterness and jealousy is off the scale​

Ashleys net spend is £30m and Shorts is £60m, over a ten year period it's not a lot of difference.
I'd like to know the difference spent on wages in that time though.

 

[Benjamin]

Ashleys net spend is £30m and Shorts is £60m, over a ten year period it's not a lot of difference.
I'd like to know the difference spent on wages in that time though.

So you have spent £30 million more and ended up two divisions below, the difference in spend would have been a lot more two years ago as well before Short finally gave up spending.

 

[Binxy]

Daft argument really, he was given about £35 million last summer to keep a championship team in the division and he somehow managed to finish 10th. Not that Ashley would ever give him £200 million but if he did I reckon he would improve on that and not get relegated.

load of bull, Stoke have just been relegated if they sell 2-3 players and replace them they still basically have a Premiership squad playing in the Championship (just like Newcastle did).
Don't try and kid yourself Rafa had a championship squad.

 

[offmenut]

Nice try but that’s not net spend , I know Sunderland fans don’t believe in net spend for some reason but the rest of the footballing world does.

You’ve been lucky with the amount you’ve recieved in transfer fees (wjinaldum and sissoko in particular)
Ashley has allowed nufc to spend cash, far more than we have.
You’re massively in debt, but hate Ashley as you want him to spend more money and get more in debt. Similar to how a lot of our fans felt about ES btw.

So you have spent £30 million more and ended up two divisions below, the difference in spend would have been a lot more two years ago as well before Short finally gave up spending.

Because we’ve bought disastrously , only making a profit on (iirc) 3 players out of about 70 that ES bought.
Net spend is bollocks, if we sold one of our players tomorrow for £100 million , and jack ross went out and spent £95 million on players and we finished bottom, do you homestly think he could use the old nufc argument of ‘ive had no money to spend’

I’m beginning to think you’re a SAFC fan on a wind up

 

[Benjamin]

You’ve been lucky with the amount you’ve recieved in transfer fees (wjinaldum and sissoko in particular)
Ashley has allowed nufc to spend cash, far more than we have.
You’re massively in debt, but hate Ashley as you want him to spend more money and get more in debt. Similar to how a lot of our fans felt about ES btw.


Because we’ve bought disastrously , only making a profit on (iirc) 3 players out of about 70 that ES bought.
Net spend is bollocks, if we sold one of our players tomorrow for £100 million , and jack ross went out and spent £95 million on players and we finished bottom, do you homestly think he could use the old nufc argument of ‘ive had no money to spend’

I’m beginning to think you’re a SAFC fan on a wind up

But if we hadn’t received that type of daft money for Sissoko and Wjinaldum we wouldn’t have spent anything anyway, Ashley will basically at a push spend what he receives for other players. Short was buying players for years for you lot and finally gave up two years ago, yet all of a sudden he’s portrayed as some sort of villain who spent nothing and Ashley in they eyes of Sunderland fans is some sort of great owner and we are unrealistic and deluded for thinking he should spend more money.

 

[janey]

But if we hadn’t received that type of daft money for Sissoko and Wjinaldum we wouldn’t have spent anything anyway, Ashley will basically at a push spend what he receives for other players. Short was buying players for years for you lot and finally gave up two years ago, yet all of a sudden he’s portrayed as some sort of villain who spent nothing and Ashley in they eyes of Sunderland fans is some sort of great owner and we are unrealistic and deluded for thinking he should spend more money.

The thing is Ashley re-invested the money made on those players.
Where did you see the Pickford money being re-invested

 

[Temptation88]

Ashleys net spend is £30m and Shorts is £60m, over a ten year period it's not a lot of difference.
I'd like to know the difference spent on wages in that time though.

If that's right both are a disgrace. 3m net spend a season when most of that was in the pl and 52k gates is shocking. Outdone by most the rest of the league i would imagine

No wonder you all like Ashley

 

[Benjamin]

The thing is Ashley re-invested the money made on those players.
Where did you see the Pickford money being re-invested

That’s my whole point, after years of spending Short could no longer do it, so he gave up when you got relegated. So for mabye 2/10 seasons he was at Sunderland he didn’t spend money. Yet you all hate him whilst at the same time saying how great Ashley is yet we’ve had about 9/10 seasons where Ashley has spent the absolute bare minimum.