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No, I mean the Venkys sacking of Allardyce was self inflicted and lead to their relegation. Allardyce leaving Sunderland was out of the clubs hands and on paper at least we employed a suitable replacement. Blackburn replaced Allardyce with Kean.
:lol: It's common knowledge Sam was about to leave. Even if regarded as bad luck, it was Short who was all over the club website when he appointed your worst nightmare Moyes, telling all and sundry he was "my number one target for the last five appointments" (which would of course include Allardyce). He could have sacked him in October, he didn't, he could have sacked him in January, he didn't, he could have sacked him in March, he didn't, he then could have sacked at the end of the season, but alas, he didn't. He actually spent his time desperately trying to convince Moyes to stay, but he failed in this endeavor too, and Moyes ending up leaving Short. Allardyce even said Short should sell. NEXT.
 
:lol: It's common knowledge Sam was about to leave.
No its not ffs. It's a rumour that has been repeated so many times it's became fact on here.

Even if regarded as bad luck, it was Short who was all over the club website when he appointed your worst nightmare Moyes, telling all and sundry he was "my number one target for the last five appointments" (which would of course include Allardyce)
I was initially pleased with the appointment. That soon changed though.

He could have sacked him in October, he didn't, he could have sacked him in January, he didn't, he could have sacked him in March, he didn't, he then could have sacked at the end of the season, but alas, he didn't.
Yes, he should have sacked him in October and we may have stood a chance. Unfortunately I think he had been taken in with all the "stability" bullshit, which plenty on here still spout - "we can't keep sacking managers" etc, etc

Allardyce even said Short should sell. NEXT.
And? Am I saying he shouldn't sell? No, I'm saying he is a different type of owner to the venkys.
 
If they have withdrawn it would explain why it’s been so quiet regarding fresh info since I initially posted.
 
I'm probably being pedantic. A change in shareholders is not an assignment of the debt. The debt is staying with the legal person to whom it was given. Were the assets and liabilities of Sunderland Limited being sold to another company, that would be an assignment. It's small, but important, distinction.

You’re confusing two completely separate issues. The transfer of shares being one, assignment of a loan agreement being another.

You can not transfer ownership of the organisation and not deal with or discharge agreements to which that organisation is party.

The loan will be governed by a loan agreement. As is standard with any corporate finance agreement, there will be a weighty section relating to assignment of the agreement to a third party. When you secure a loan you are subject to credit approval process, the same credit approval process will have to be satisfied by any prospective purchaser and will be at the discretion of the finance provider.

I'll gladly take someone slightly less wealthy but who is actively working hard to make it a success at all levels

But SBC might not. They want to know whomever is on the hook is good for that amount of debt.
 
No its not ffs. It's a rumour that has been repeated so many times it's became fact on here.


I was initially pleased with the appointment. That soon changed though.


Yes, he should have sacked him in October and we may have stood a chance. Unfortunately I think he had been taken in with all the "stability" bullshit, which plenty on here still spout - "we can't keep sacking managers" etc, etc


And? Am I saying he shouldn't sell? No, I'm saying he is a different type of owner to the venkys.
@Fetch Fletch @Hongkongphooey @ProfessionalMackem @CissesUnderpants19 so it's the fans fault. Thanks for your insight.

P.S. if you're not opposed to him selling maybe he should stop slagging the fans off when he's in the process of selling it Scumbag Short Slagging the fans
 
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