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Just curious, genuinely .. which war films are better?

I ask because there's a spate of war films out just now (some good, some reported to be bad) so I'd like to see how the perception is in SMB land.

Off the top of my head I prefer Hurt Locker, Apocalypse Now, Enemy at the Gates, Saving Private Ryan......far more likely to go back and watch any of those films.
 

Off the top of my head I prefer Hurt Locker, Apocalypse Now, Enemy at the Gates, Saving Private Ryan......far more likely to go back and watch any of those films.

Thanks for that. Agree about SPR, although it's a little self-indulgent and loses pace in the middle third. Mind you, after such an opening, that's no surprise!

I made the mistake of introducing myself to Apocalypse Now by watching the extended redux version first. What a meandering load of nonsense. The shortened original version is far better.
 
I think Platoon suffered a little as it was released among a spate of other 'Nam fillums. Pick of the bunch, though.
Black Hawk Down needed a protagonist or two for me, personally.
Band of Brothers knocks all war films and series into a cocked hat, but obviously has the advantage of many hours to build it.
 
Not really sure it can be classed as a war film but Zero Dark 30 has to be up there. I love that film.
 
Just curious, genuinely .. which war films are better?

I ask because there's a spate of war films out just now (some good, some reported to be bad) so I'd like to see how the perception is in SMB land.

IMO - the ones that are up there with Dunkirk:

The Cruel Sea
Battle of Britain
opening of Saving Private Ryan
1st half of Full Metal Jacket
 
Not really sure it can be classed as a war film but Zero Dark 30 has to be up there. I love that film.
I need to watch that again properly. Watched it at an open air cinema and didn't work out well. May watch tonight as the missus is away.

I watched Lone Survivor the other day and really enjoyed that.

Off ot see Dunkirk tomorrow too.
 
IMO - the ones that are up there with Dunkirk:

The Cruel Sea
Battle of Britain
opening of Saving Private Ryan
1st half of Full Metal Jacket

good shout, I always thought it strange how amazing the first half is and then it descends into a formulaic standard war fillum.

I remember Run Silent Run Deep being canny, but it's been a while.
 
I went to go see this at Vue Gateshead and found the dialogue difficult to hear. Anyone else have any problems with that? Overall, I thought the whole film was pretty disappointing to be honest. Had high expectations, mind.
 
I need to watch that again properly. Watched it at an open air cinema and didn't work out well. May watch tonight as the missus is away.

I watched Lone Survivor the other day and really enjoyed that.

Off ot see Dunkirk tomorrow too.

It's really good how the story unravels and they eventually start to suspect where he is. I've probably watched it 4 times and would happily put it on tonight if twisty tits was out.
 
I went to go see this at Vue Gateshead and found the dialogue difficult to hear. Anyone else have any problems with that? Overall, I thought the whole film was pretty disappointing to be honest. Had high expectations, mind.

Yep. I immediately thought that. Apparently it's deliberate.
 
Saw it tonight, was blown away by it. It's not often I sit still and watch the screen throughout the film. Incredible stuff, the spitfire scenes and its filming deserve an oscar.

just got back from seeing it

10/10 - got a bit emotional when the Branagh character sees the little ships for the first time (possibly just something in my eye as same thing happened at the end when they're reading the newspaper

;)

only needed an end credit scene of Tom Hardy strangling his captors and escaping (whilst probably shacking up with a french tart) for an 11/10
Thought the end was superb, the non stop rollercoaster of emotions was spot on. Harry was a bit of a kernt like :lol:
 
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Yep I watched this Kodi cam last night, been looking forward to seeing this movie for ages. I have to agree with those that have been slightly disappointed. Not sure if i was expecting more of a documentary type movie but the scale of the event just didnt come through for me. Some scenes like the pilot trapped in the spitfire as it sank in the ocean was excellent but overall the movie somehow didn't hit the mark for me to want to watch again.
Seeing it on the big screen would help IMO mate.

Edit - People asking for Kodi streams, get off your tight, fat, lazy arses and go see it in its true cinematic glory. Especially you @hank williams
 
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Seeing it on the big screen would help IMO mate.

Edit - People asking for Kodi streams, get off your tight, fat, lazy arses and go see it in its true cinematic glory. Especially you @hank williams
Saw it tonight and thought it was fantastic.

Only criticism was it was a bit jumpy but that's what Nolan wanted.

Can't believe people my age were going through this shit 70 years ago.
 
Saw it tonight and thought it was fantastic.

Only criticism was it was a bit jumpy but that's what Nolan wanted.

Can't believe people my age were going through this shit 70 years ago.

Watched both still think the original the better of the two
 
Seeing it on the big screen would help IMO mate.

Edit - People asking for Kodi streams, get off your tight, fat, lazy arses and go see it in its true cinematic glory. Especially you @hank williams

For the umpteenth time, yes obviously the visuals and audio are going to be fantastic on a big screen, but that won't alter the actual script or storyline to the movie. Watch the old B&W version of Dunkirk with John Mills etc, there's no multi million dollar visual effects or state of the art audio but it does convey the importance of the evacuation of Dunkirk. The evacuation was every bit as important as the Battle of Britain. Had Britain lost those 350,000 troops on the beaches we would have almost certainly have lost the war. Those men could not have been replaced and a defeat like that would have ended everything, the outcome doesn't bear thinking about. In this movie you get to see the colossal challenges that both Army and Navy experienced as well as the courage and fortitude of those civilians who plied their way into dangerous waters to help rescue the troops stranded on the beach, these civilians risked life and limb to come to the rescue. Many of these old war movies that were made shortly after the war have a gritty depth and realism, probably because most of the actors actually took part in the war itself, they could salute, march and handle weapons because many had done it for real.

As one film critic said about the Dunkirk 2017 movie,

I should love this film. Historical drama? WWII setting? My favourite director Christopher Nolan? Amazing cinematography? Superb performances from an ensemble cast? All of these elements made me sure I would love this going in. But, Dunkirk's lack of emotional connection severely detracts from the awe-inspiring scope and technical prowess displayed.

If I reviewed based on visuals alone, this is a slam-dunk, walk-off home run of a 5-star film. While a focus on grandeur and situation over character depth and emotion may work for some (it obviously worked for 98% of critics on Rotten Tomatoes), it did not work for this critic.

This is without a doubt a cinematic achievement, but without an emotional core, it's impossible for this film not to feel cold and empty. Despite being a technical masterpiece, this is Christopher Nolan's most disappointing film yet.

I'm with @hank williams on this one, much prefer the original version.
 
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