New livery scamera vans

[Zig81]

Is this the same stretch of road on which there was a fatality in September 2015? Cluster of accidents at the staggered junction at Stoney Gate too. Easy to see why they'd choose to enforce there.

The speed camera van isn't anywhere near the staggered junction though, it's in the layby about 1/2 mile further on up Houghton cut or they put it on the downslope of Houghton cut where you gather momentum with the severity of the slope. This forces people to keep checking their speed which in turn means they're not watching the road.

 

[Old Prestonian]

The bastards in Lancashire are putting average speed cameras on about 8 roads. Most of which are 50 mph stretches of roads where you can drive much faster. The first stretch is being switched on this Thursday. Piss taking, money making machines.

 

[Maxnormal]

Someone drove into a lamppost at some stage, probably that. This is after the junction, like I said.
'Enforce'. Have a f***ing word, man.

We get fleeced for the most minor of things.

Of late it's been every weekend either at the top of the cut in the lay by westbound, the bottom of the cut on the bridge westbound and eastbound or by the jag garage. Shit sick of them. They can fuck off.

 

[SR5 1SU]

The bastards in Lancashire are putting average speed cameras on about 8 roads. Most of which are 50 mph stretches of roads where you van drive much faster. The first stretch is being switched on this Thursday. Piss taking, money making machines.

It's only a matter of time before them cameras cause a serious accident and I hope the arsehole responsible for them is brought to justice.

 

[Norwich Red n White]

Ha'way lads, lets all rally, and tip the fuckers over!

There's a news article somewhere about someone who crept up and took the number plate off a speed camera van, put it on their car and proceeded to whiz up and down the road getting snapped!! I'll try and find it...

 

[Zig81]

Of late it's been every weekend either at the top of the cut in the lay by westbound, the bottom of the cut on the bridge westbound and eastbound or by the jag garage. Shit sick of them. They can fuck off.

The location on the bridge is fuckin stupid and dangerous.

 

[longtimelurker]

The bastards in Lancashire are putting average speed cameras on about 8 roads. Most of which are 50 mph stretches of roads where you van drive much faster. The first stretch is being switched on this Thursday. Piss taking, money making machines.

That is shite, mate.
When the average cameras first came out, it was claimed they would never be installed permanently, then they went up on the Cat and Fiddle, iirc.
They will be everywhere, one day.

 

[Norwich Red n White]

Save your spreadsheets.
If they claim it is for safety, why attempt to be more covert? It is to generate revenue, and that is it

Hardly covert like is it!!

 

[longtimelurker]

There's a news article somewhere about someone who crept up and took the number plate off a speed camera van, put it on their car and proceeded to whiz up and down the road getting snapped!! I'll try and find it...

Never heard that one. The people who pull up behind them in vans or cars and open tailgates etc make me laugh, mind.
Especially the bloke who did it in his Panamera and then went into the pub for an hour or two.

Hardly covert like is it!!

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[Frijj]

The speed camera van isn't anywhere near the staggered junction though, it's in the layby about 1/2 mile further on up Houghton cut or they put it on the downslope of Houghton cut where you gather momentum with the severity of the slope. This forces people to keep checking their speed which in turn means they're not watching the road.

People going too fast for the road contribute to accidents at those junctions though mate.

Is it really that hard to keep your speed below the limit? They even give you 10%.

It's only a matter of time before them cameras cause a serious accident and I hope the arsehole responsible for them is brought to justice.

How will they cause an accident?

 

[longtimelurker]

People going too fast for the road contribute to accidents at those junctions though mate.

Is it really that hard to keep your speed below the limit? They even give you 10%.



How will they cause an accident?

Face it, man. 50 and 70 on dual carrigeways is just too slow.

They will cause an accident because they often have the lanes coned down narrower than they usually are, people are fixated on their speed, ensuring they don't have the audacity to creep over 30/40/50 in these mile after miles stretches, often alongside articulated wagons and the like.
In a driver with low confidence, you work out the potential scenarios.

 

[Zig81]

People going too fast for the road contribute to accidents at those junctions though mate.

Is it really that hard to keep your speed below the limit? They even give you 10%.



How will they cause an accident?

The camera van in question is in the layby heading away from the junction though, you've already passed the shitty junction mate, it doesn't make sense and as for the one on the downslope it's an accident waiting to happen.

To be fair I don't speed very often and never on that road as it's there a fair bit.

Face it, man. 50 and 70 on dual carrigeways is just too slow.

They will cause an accident because they often have the lanes coned down narrower than they usually are, people are fixated on their speed, ensuring they don't have the audacity to creep over 30/40/50 in these mile after miles stretches, often alongside articulated wagons and the like.
In a driver with low confidence, you work out the potential scenarios.

Totally agree with this, you can see people panic.

 

[Maxnormal]

The location on the bridge is fuckin stupid and dangerous.

Aye! I've also seen it on the grass verge at the corner at the very bottom of the cut. Confused the fuck out of me: signs say max speed 40 but also little circular ones say 50!!!

 

[longtimelurker]

The camera van in question is in the layby heading away from the junction though, you've already passed the shitty junction mate, it doesn't make sense and as for the one on the downslope it's an accident waiting to happen.

To be fair I don't speed very often and never on that road as it's there a fair bit.

Same here tbh, on an evening or night I will often exceed 50mph, but during the day, it just isn't worthwhile.
Spying on everyone and purposely slowing traffic flow when there is no need (and countless new cars registered every six months) is hardly progress.

 

[Zig81]

Aye! I've also seen it on the grass verge at the corner at the very bottom of the cut. Confused the fuck out of me: signs say max speed 40 but also little circular ones say 50!!!

I've seen it further up just before the Rainton Meadows turn off where it used to be a 70 but is now a 50.

 

[longtimelurker]

Aye! I've also seen it on the grass verge at the corner at the very bottom of the cut. Confused the fuck out of me: signs say max speed 40 but also little circular ones say 50!!!

Anything not in a circle on a sign is just an advisory. Like the daft max speed 40 mph painted on the road on the Western Bypass. Mind, it used to be a 70 road when that was first painted on. *sigh*

I've seen it further up just before the Rainton Meadows turn off where it used to be a 70 but is now a 50.

You get Durham plod hanging around in the layby after West Rainton, too. Where it used to change to 70.

 

[SR5 1SU]

How will they cause an accident?

Because the average speed contraptions make people panic and focus on their dashboard instruments for longer than what is necessary compared to normal driving conditions.

They are a complete distraction, drivers can be fully aware of their surroundings, until you enter a speed camera zone and then the focus shifts to constantly checking speed and looking up at the sky to try and spot the next set of cameras.

Very dangerous.

 

[longtimelurker]

On the subject of the Stoneygate staggered junction, I couldn't believe it when they redone it, so retards who don't know how to position their car to go straight over, or join the opposite side carrigeway, cannot do so now. They have to either travel to the Houghton or A19 roundabout.
Unfortunately, so do the rest of us!

Pissing about with road layouts and squaring off junctions etc for the inept percentage amongst us pisses me off.

 

[Deleted User 2893]

People going too fast for the road contribute to accidents at those junctions though mate.

Is it really that hard to keep your speed below the limit? They even give you 10%.



How will they cause an accident?

For once spreadsheet boy is right

Because the average speed contraptions make people panic and focus on their dashboard instruments for longer than what is necessary compared to normal driving conditions.

They are a complete distraction, drivers can be fully aware of their surroundings, until you enter a speed camera zone and then the focus shifts to constantly checking speed and looking up at the sky to try and spot the next set of cameras.

Very dangerous.

Surely if you are travelling at or below the speed limit there is no reason to look up to the sky to spot the next set of cameras

 

[longtimelurker]

For once spreadsheet boy is right

There must be two invisible junctions near the layby in question and also on the bank itself. Silly me.
The vans in question wait exactly where people speed up. The accidents do not occur there, they are further back. Anyone would think they are just looking for speeders in the most obvious (and very safe parts), rather than being a visible presence on the worst sections of the road.