royaldragon
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Unbelievable, good but disturbing read.
Ian Lavery MP
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As a former union activist I find it reprehensible that benevolent funds can be used in this way. The fund we had/have in my union was supposed to be used by members for R&R after accidents etc. not giving generous mortgages to the hierarchy. Especially mortgages which seem to have 'disappeared'. Unbelievable that he thinks he doesn't have to answer questions regarding funds he received from member's contributions.
viccarlton
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I might agree if I knew what that was.
Boz33
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Your right it would be truly laughable if it wasn't such a terrible thing if it's true.
Seems to be a lot of figures that need explaining away in that association, same as the Durham one where they've went from very comfortable to potless pretty quickly.
I'd love to blame the big bad Tories/ southerners doing shite like this, but this is northern union people running these things, doing it to their'own' people.
I hope someone puts Corbyn on the spot publicly in the chamber so it makes labour as a whole actually pull their finger out and get to the bottom of it, as lavery seems like he's gonna say fuck all unless he's forced to
John Steed
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Thought he lived in a council house?Didn't Scargill live in something about the size of chatsworth house?
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Icarebecauseyoudo
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Yeah, the entire offices
John Steed
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What's that tale about him? When he came to office he had a small house and a big Union. By the time he left he had a big house and a small Union.
I hate people who put their hand on your shoulder while patronising you like he did to that reporter in the clip
My father in law was paid in cash by the NUM to go and picket down at Orgreave.
Except him and a few others out of his workshops never went .
The cash was used to line the pockets of union officials during the strike , whilst members of the same Union were on the bones of their arses.
Utter scum.
Except him and a few others out of his workshops never went .
The cash was used to line the pockets of union officials during the strike , whilst members of the same Union were on the bones of their arses.
Utter scum.
heroesof73
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well he lived in a one that he didn't buy himself just like Lavery--most folk that lived in a council house bought their own and were very proud of that
Hardyman's Yugo
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If he's paid himself I'm assuming this is fraud and therefore a criminal offence. I once worked with an arsehole who took £250k from a charity and was sentenced to 2 years
Slippery Jim
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Pfffft....!
Boz33
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Who knows, from the news night thing it looks like he sees it as a personal matter between him and the union.
Apart from effectively resigning to join parliament it seems odd that he should get a redundancy payment of 62k or so. On top of this the union stated in 2013 there was also past general secretary redundancy costs of 84k as well but there's a mystery over who the 85k went to. Was it lavery as well? Who knows
As news night put it last nigh these figure may not seem out of the ordinary for an active union consisting of thousands of members....the Northumbria branch has something like 6 members.....
These questions need to be answered along side the mortgage loan, and whether it was paid back at all.
The more that you look at the figures the more strange some expenses seem....13k for a fact finding tour of Cuba and India, 39k for an Australian trip. 10k for a picnic!!
If hes got nothing to hide I'm sure he and the rest of the exec committee will explain all these things so a clear picture can be gained, personally I'm not so sure he will be so forthcoming, so it needs either labour to clean house and be crystal clear on what is expected, a commons select committee to do it, or some other authority to get the accounts and go through them forensically and see where every last farthing has went.
Bearing in mind the tiny amount of members, and the huge amounts of money the union had, tied with the pitiful amount that has been given out by the benevolent fund some people from the union have a lot of explaining to do with regards of what happened to all the money so the miners and their widows know that nothing untoward has went on.
Durham also seems to be way short of money from what they had in the coffers too. Perhaps all the mining branches should be examined properly, because if it's proven wrong doing has been done that's an unforgivable crime on the miners and their families.
Or they could exonerate themselves and we all go merrily on our way knowing that union officials didn't screw over miners for their own betterment
There's a few posters conspicuous by there absent on this thread who would be all over it if the rt honourable gentlemen resided on the opposite side of the house
rael
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I don't know how much money your talking about but you did get paid for going on the picket line. For us it was 2 pound in the morning and a pound in the afternoon. You signed a book and at the end of the week collected a max of 15 quid from the miners hall. Lavery needs to be up front about what's gone on here. Any wrongdoing and if needs to be held accountable. This is likely to be the tip of the iceberg. Hate the way money corrupts people.
---Nemo---
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Me too, makes your flesh creep.
10 Gary Rowells
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100%. He needs to give clear answers or face de-selection. He's on the 'strongly support' Corbyn list and so won't get touched. The Leaders on both sides would get far more respect if they acted on issues such as this.
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