GiantHogweed
Striker
What an absolute load of shit this is.
Well done.
Well done.
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That's a better way of putting it then. But that's my point. Despite being a good player, his signing has completely fucked us up and sent us all over the shop. More than any other.
More than 3. Good chance we don't beat Everton without his goal. Made one on his own against Swansea to get us a point, obviously his against the Mags and scored the second in the Burnley 2-1 win.
He may be on shitloads but he scored vital goals to keep us up so has paid for himself anyway.
I don't know what some people see in our games WTF! He's past his best but he's still our most potent striker!What the fuckety fuck.
Contrast Defoe to the likes of Rodwell and Altidore.
The OP must be high as a kite.
We beat Burnley and Everton 2-0, he scored the second in both games.
We beat Burnley and Everton 2-0, he scored the second in both games.
His goals won us three points.
Rodwell's goals won us two points, and cost Hull two. Does that mean he was more valuable then? A better signing?
Got opening goal in the draw away at swansea, got the 2nd against everton ans burnley to seal the wins.We beat Burnley and Everton 2-0, he scored the second in both games.
His goals won us three points.
Rodwell's goals won us two points, and cost Hull two. Does that mean he was more valuable then? A better signing?
So we have a shit defence and midfield and Defoe is to blame ?Not really. He doesn't fit into a side in modern football, certainly not one with as weak a defence and midfield as us.
The second goals in two 2-0 wins and you're discounting them
So we have a shit defence and midfield and Defoe is to blame ?
Put the booze away and go to bed
Got opening goal in the draw away at swansea, got the 2nd against everton ans burnley to seal the wins.
We swapped him for alitdore man!
My god, you're smashed.Controversial view, but his signing has been a disaster.
Not so much as a player: despite being four years past his (pretty average) best, he's still our best goalscorer and an alright player.
But he turned Poyet's grinding, but solid, team into a complete shambles as Gus fannied about trying to find a way to accommodate him in the side. Convinced if he hadn't signed, we would have ground out a dull survival, Poyet would still be manager and we'd be moving on with a actual philosophy and at least trying to play good football.
Even after Poyet, Advocaat was at a complete loss how to us him, and now Allardyce his.
He's on unspeakable wages, until he's about 63, and three managers in a row have basically admitted there's no way to fit him into our side.
A genuinely, catastrophically awful signing, which we didn't need and didn't fit, which is the biggest shambles of the whole Congerton era of awfulness.
Cannot understand how anyone can think he's been a good signing.
He's on a fortune.
Hes past his best.
He's average.
But he's still an alright player.
But we have fucked ourselves over by repeatedly trying to figure out how to fit him in. We haven't got a clue.
Simply, we can't start him. He can't play a lone striker role as he isn't big enough or enough of a target man. He can't play out wide as he doesn't defend enough. He can only play as part of a front two. Which we can't play as it leaves our midfield too exposed.
He's been a dreadful signing. Not what we needed at all, on a fortune, at an age where we're stuck with him.
Get a grip man, he was bought as a goal scorer and that's what he's done. You've got to look at the other 10 players before criticising Defoe.Realise I'm in a tiny minority. And I've probably poorly phrased the opening post.
But he has been a very poor signing who has caused more harm than good, seen off one manager and utterly bamboozled another two.
He's a canny player (not the world bester some say like, but still canny), but we are a poorer side since he signed.
I don't think it's his fault he's being paid whatever he's being paid, I think there are arguements on both sides, sometimes, I don't think today was a sometimes arguement. At Everton him and Fletcher did canny, for me they weren't responsible for it being 6, but they seemed to have paid the price. I hope the Everton 6-2 isn't Gus's 8-0 in terms of how we play.More about what he represents.
He's on shitloads, and despite being clearly decent three managers have no idea how to fit him into our side. His introduced actually forced one manager to completely overhaul his tactics and gameplan, which saw him sacked.
He's been a mare. Probably a poor/unrepresentative thread title from me, tbf