Minimum Unit Pricing for Alcohol

[greedminds]

I don't think Apple make spaceships mate. Just iPads and that.

Did you hear that one in ten people are homosexual ?

 

[Frijj]

Did you hear that one in ten people are homosexual ?

None of the ten men I've had sex with were, so it must be me. Eek.

 

[greedminds]

None of the ten men I've had sex with were, so it must be me. Eek.

Cool
Do you think that ,that principle then relates to people that are mentally disabled ?

 

[Frijj]

Cool
Do you think that ,that principle then relates to people that are mentally disabled ?

Is this a sneaky way of calling me mentally disabled? I'm not disabled. Just a bit, you know. Slow.

 

[greedminds]

Is this a sneaky way of calling me mentally disabled? I'm not disabled. Just a bit, you know. Slow.

I wasn't at all. ( thou protesteth too much)

I was wondering if you thought that the " one in ten " principle applied to the mental/ disabled community , is all

 

[Frijj]

I wasn't at all. ( thou protesteth too much)

I was wondering if you thought that the " one in ten " principle applied to the mental/ disabled community , is all

I have no idea of the prevalence of mental disability. I'm sure it's out there somewhere.

 

[Lambchops]

@Frijj i currently pay 2.75 for 10 500ml bottles of budvar - how much would they go up to?

 

[Frijj]

@Frijj i currently pay 2.75 for 10 500ml bottles of budvar - how much would they go up to?

Is that £2.75?

4.7%

It would be, er, £1.15 a bottle.

 

[Lambchops]

Is that £2.75?

4.7%

It would be, er, £1.15 a bottle.

Aye, 5.2% the ones i get

 

[greedminds]

I have no idea of the prevalence of mental disability. I'm sure it's out there somewhere.

Oh it's there

Is that £2.75?

4.7%

It would be, er, £1.15 a bottle.

you da man !

 

[Frijj]

Aye, 5.2% the ones i get

£1.30 then

Oh it's there

you da man !

I am not the man

 

[greedminds]

£1.30 then



I am not the man

Who knew

 

[becs]

Agree or disagree?

Not really bothered.

 

[Mackem00]

I am vehemently against the proposal.

What part of that post cracks you up there GM?



At 4% it is 1.8 units and would increase from £2.15 to £3.60 for 4 cans.

I don't think that's a massive increase in price, but someone on a different income might.

That is a massive increase percentage wise. I bet you'd sharp twist if your 10p mix-ups suddenly shot up to 16p like.

 

[danielsan]

should introduce a minimum pricing on calories too.....that will help get rid of some of pressure on the nhs for obesity

 

[monkeytassle]

should introduce a minimum pricing on calories too.....that will help get rid of some of pressure on the nhs for obesity

Is that tongue in cheek?

 

[Charmless Man]

I find it genuinely disconcerting that people are accepting that paying more tax to the government on bottles of cheap alcohol will reduce alcoholism. There will no doubt be people on here who have had addictions and know that a couple of extra quid on a bottle of frosty jacks isn't the answer..

IF that tax were used to fund substance misuse groups, public health initiatives around alcohol etc, it would be worth it, but in reality the tax will ironically go towards funding things such as the £250,000 champagne budget for the MP http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/07/champagne-house-of-lords-reform-taxpayer

I know people take it lightly and talk about 'scratters', but alcoholism is spread across the working and middle classes not only 'lower classes' and it's ultimately the top paid that benefit from tax initiatives like this

I think this is the point that really needs to be addressed. A price increase simply will not work.

 

[Frijj]

I think this is the point that really needs to be addressed. A price increase simply will not work.

https://www.shef.ac.uk/scharr/sections/ph/research/alpol/faq

"There is an extensive and robust body of international evidence showing that increases in the price of alcohol are associated with falls in both alcohol consumption and alcohol-related harm. This evidence includes several meta-analyses and systematic reviews covering over 100 studies and was summarised in a major review by the University of Sheffield. MUP is a specific form of price increase which target the price of the relatively cheap and high-strength alcohol which is disproportionately purchased by those drinking at higher levels."

Associated, yes, not definitely causal, but worth exploring, no?

 

[Anthrax666]

Agree or disagree?

50p per unit.

Wouldn't actually make drink that much more expensive, would add about £1.50 on to the price of a multipack of Fosters, about 80p on the price of a four-pack of Special Brew. A bottle of Blossom Hill is already more than 50p per unit.

However it would increase the price of Frosty Jacks from £4.50 (£3.50 on 2 for £7) to £11.25 and the price of a bottle of ASDA's own Vodka from £10.00 to about £13.00.

What is a 'Unit'?

 

[John Steed]

The extra £1.45, or whatever the extra price is, is supposed to discourage people from drinking more. The average man shouldn't be drinking more than 12 cans of that ALDI lager, for example. That's medical advice mind, not my opinion. Like smoking, governments see irresponsible drinking as a contributing factor in a lot of social and medical problems in society.



To get a cross-section of opinions from people who won't have the same opinion as me, so that I can see how other people see the issue.

I can't appreciate the issue in the same way that someone older than me might be able to, or someone who has different drinking patterns might, or someone with kids, etc.

People like @Pop and @John Steed and @Teed (as well as others) have made really good points about the impact of the increase on the individual and resentment at already being taxed on something.

Price increases won't be by tax. The shops will have to increase their prices so it's more profit for them. The government will get very little out of this.