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Frijj said:
Should the people get what the people want?
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Yes because that's the only way the majority will actually value their vote. If the people voted in a bnp government, we'd get 5 years of shit and then they'd think twice about what they were voting for - and might make an effort to inform themselves.
 
Nick Robinson (BBC) - "It is over 100 years since a national election has been won by a party other than the Conservatives and Labour”

It's time for a change and the people are voting with their ballots. The EU is not what we originally signed up for and we haven't had a chance to vote on it since.
 
Jesse The Body Ventura said:
Nick Robinson (BBC) - "It is over 100 years since a national election has been won by a party other than the Conservatives and Labour”

It's time for a change and the people are voting with their ballots. The EU is not what we originally signed up for and we haven't had a chance to vote on it since.
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30 odd% turnout says they're not.

Gingga said:
Many more would if they had a party/person worth voting for, people are sick of the career politicians lying to us while filling there own bank accounts at our expense.
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oh I agree mate but to not vote in my humble opinion is just plain daft. vote indy, vote whatever, piss on your ballot paper. but just vote.
 
David M said:
Just had a quick scan through this thread. A lot of people must have seen that erroneous infographic that's been doing the rounds on social media 'detailing' UKIP's policies despite the counter-infographic proving otherwise. It is truly troubling how many people vote despite not understanding/researching the basics of politics.
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That's always been the case though.
 
Mainze said:
The mainstream politicians ignored public feelin too long, this was always going to happen. It about time politics had a kick up the arse before it's too late.
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Indeed. UKIP have taken a chunk of the Tory vote but Labour should be thankful there isn't a left wing equivalent, bearing mind Farage is more Tory than Cameron and still took votes off them.
 
Gingga said:
Many more would if they had a party/person worth voting for, people are sick of the career politicians lying to us while filling there own bank accounts at our expense.
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By not voting for you leave the floor for them to secure their position, again, because they do vote
 
Jesse The Body Ventura said:
Nick Robinson (BBC) - "It is over 100 years since a national election has been won by a party other than the Conservatives and Labour”

It's time for a change and the people are voting with their ballots. The EU is not what we originally signed up for and we haven't had a chance to vote on it since.
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"That's not to say that the popular uprising at the ballot box swept the board. It didn't, and it is extremely important not to exaggerate it. In most EU member states, even in traditionally Eurosceptic Britain, the majority of voters in another pitiful turnout voted for parties that support the EU and that want to see the European project survive, whether reformed or unreformed.

Even today, and even in Britain, voters believe Europe is better off together. That will not be much consolation to the Liberal Democrats as they survey the wreckage. But the anti-EU forces, even if you add the anti-EU left and the anti-EU right, remain dwarfed by those who support the project.

But not by as much as they did in the past. This was in no meaningful or moral sense a victory for the pro-European parties or for the European project that they cherish and drive. These parties have no sure mandate now. The momentum is all against them. The revolt against the system may not have won the majority, but it has surely changed the political realities of Europe."

That's from a Guardian piece today, think it's the most objective observation of what it all means.

Worth reiterating again that barley a third of electorate voted as well. The more these issues become closer to home, the more fear there is of a swing to the right, the numbers of those apathetic will increases I suspect, whereas the majority of ardent UKIP supporters at present will have already voted.
 
sonson said:
"That's not to say that the popular uprising at the ballot box swept the board. It didn't, and it is extremely important not to exaggerate it. In most EU member states, even in traditionally Eurosceptic Britain, the majority of voters in another pitiful turnout voted for parties that support the EU and that want to see the European project survive, whether reformed or unreformed.

Even today, and even in Britain, voters believe Europe is better off together. That will not be much consolation to the Liberal Democrats as they survey the wreckage. But the anti-EU forces, even if you add the anti-EU left and the anti-EU right, remain dwarfed by those who support the project.

But not by as much as they did in the past. This was in no meaningful or moral sense a victory for the pro-European parties or for the European project that they cherish and drive. These parties have no sure mandate now. The momentum is all against them. The revolt against the system may not have won the majority, but it has surely changed the political realities of Europe."

That's from a Guardian piece today, think it's the most objective observation of what it all means.

Worth reiterating again that barley a third of electorate voted as well. The more these issues become closer to home, the more fear there is of a swing to the right, the numbers of those apathetic will increases I suspect, whereas the majority of ardent UKIP supporters at present will have already voted.
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the bbc asked a stallholder in Newark this morning who he voted for in Europeans. he said "ukip". when asked if he would vote for them in the GE, he said nope.
 
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