Darren Fletcher

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BishopQuaker said:
By thunder!

Well lets hope that doesn't happen to him.
That would probably mean the end of his career for one thing!
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It depends, they are experimenting with removing the colon and joining it back up, not enough people have had it done to see if all they are doing is moving the problem to another area.

If that doesn't work, unfortunately it would mean a colostomy bag for life.
 
My dad has lived with it for getting on for 50 years and has no real restrictions. Can lead to colostomy bag if tablets don't work though.
 
Aye, he always carries bog roll with him wherever he goes :D
Could have been a lot worse and he played football until his 40s and cricket into his 50s.
 
anewloginapparently said:
Is this one of the illnesses they were talking about giving people faecal transplants to help cure?
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That sounds shit!

On a serious note it can be a grim condition. My wife has it and when it's active it can be seriously debilitating and lead to alarming weight loss, fatigue and general misery contemplating the loss of your bowel. Can be well controlled with the right medication although people on tablets generally don't have a severe case of UC. Immuno suppresents are the next line of treatment but very expensive and mean regular trips to hospital to have the drug administred introvenously as well as succeptibility to all manner of infections.

Good luck to Fletcher, hope he can avoid any serious effects of the condition.
 
i had collitus as a 10 yr old doctors fault apparantly for giving me too high a dose of tablets for my age..horrible thing to have i shat blood & had unbelievably bad stomach pains but luckily ime cured....i think,remember the medicine tasting rank & being told after they managed to get the medicine to work on me that it was a killer think i went down to 4 stone even had a camera put up me arse that in itself was humiliating never mind painful but i thank the doctors for saving my life so my thoughs go out to darren fletcher
 
I have crohns collitus, slightly worse then ulcerative collitus, the diagnosis and the recovery from the original period of discomfort is the pits, if you do as the quack says and bend the rules a bit but do not break them you can get on with things as normal, i was on the sick for 2 months and took me about 4 months after to get a grip.

he'll be back

its a shitter like (excuse the pun)
 
c1ark73 said:
I have crohns collitus, slightly worse then ulcerative collitus, the diagnosis and the recovery from the original period of discomfort is the pits, if you do as the quack says and bend the rules a bit but do not break them you can get on with things as normal, i was on the sick for 2 months and took me about 4 months after to get a grip.

he'll be back

its a shitter like (excuse the pun)
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I also have it. It varies in severity from person to person. I've had episodes when I've ended up in hospital for two weeks after excreting 3 pints of blood. It's the fatigue and the chronic stomach cramps that are the pisser. But when there's no episodes there's no symptoms.
 
anewloginapparently said:
Is this one of the illnesses they were talking about giving people faecal transplants to help cure?
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Similar process, different cause. The faecal transfer is for C Diff Colitis. Colitis is a general term for inflammation of the gut and is caused mainly by 3 things; lack of blood to the bowel, infection, or an autoimmune process. Getting C Diff is usually our fault by giving strong antibiotics which kill off the normal bugs in your colon. Then C Diff, which is another bug that is resistant to the original antibiotic, takes hold of your colon and caused inflammation. The only cure for this upto now was stronger antibiotics for a long time, but someone had the bright idea of introducing the old bacteria back into the colon to compete with the C Diff.

Fletcher has an autoimmune type of Colitis. Its probably the "better" one of the two autoimmune types as cutting the colon out is a permanent cure. We do it in such a way that you only need a bag for 6 months or so. After its all settled down it can be connected up again and you can go back to using the toilet instead.

Crohn's, which is the other type, is a nightmare to manage. It goes anywhere from "mouth to anus", and cutting it out does not get rid of it. It causes bits of bowel to tunnel through to bladder, other bits of bowl, as well as bursting leaving stool to collect in your abdomen. We cut out the diseased bits if they burst or start tunnelling but they just keep on coming back. You tend to end up with more than one bag with this one if you've got it bad.
 
Binternet said:
Similar process, different cause. The faecal transfer is for C Diff Colitis. Colitis is a general term for inflammation of the gut and is caused mainly by 3 things; lack of blood to the bowel, infection, or an autoimmune process. Getting C Diff is usually our fault by giving strong antibiotics which kill off the normal bugs in your colon. Then C Diff, which is another bug that is resistant to the original antibiotic, takes hold of your colon and caused inflammation. The only cure for this upto now was stronger antibiotics for a long time, but someone had the bright idea of introducing the old bacteria back into the colon to compete with the C Diff.

Fletcher has an autoimmune type of Colitis. Its probably the "better" one of the two autoimmune types as cutting the colon out is a permanent cure. We do it in such a way that you only need a bag for 6 months or so. After its all settled down it can be connected up again and you can go back to using the toilet instead.

Crohn's, which is the other type, is a nightmare to manage. It goes anywhere from "mouth to anus", and cutting it out does not get rid of it. It causes bits of bowel to tunnel through to bladder, other bits of bowl, as well as bursting leaving stool to collect in your abdomen. We cut out the diseased bits if they burst or start tunnelling but they just keep on coming back. You tend to end up with more than one bag with this one if you've got it bad.
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I feel sick.

Can the autoimmune one be managed with diet?
 
I have colitis but fortunatley mine got under control and is now normal, got some top drugs off the specialist.

Was very inflamed and was hell for a while but I can control mine and now I dont even need the tablets.

When it was first got it was scared stiff about getting the one Fletcher has or Chrons, so I know all the symptoms and its game over if you get that.

I'd be very suprised if Fletcher comes back like, but I guess he has money so can get top treatment, didnt realise it was such a common disease, thought it was more the old population.

They also have no idea what causes it.
 
Blimey :eek: poor fella - in my job I'm 'lucky' enough to work on a lot of the promotional materials for an ulcerative colitis and proctitis drug - not nice stuff at all
 
Good luck to the bloke, hopefully he will make a full recovery
 
Binternet said:
Similar process, different cause. The faecal transfer is for C Diff Colitis. Colitis is a general term for inflammation of the gut and is caused mainly by 3 things; lack of blood to the bowel, infection, or an autoimmune process. Getting C Diff is usually our fault by giving strong antibiotics which kill off the normal bugs in your colon. Then C Diff, which is another bug that is resistant to the original antibiotic, takes hold of your colon and caused inflammation. The only cure for this upto now was stronger antibiotics for a long time, but someone had the bright idea of introducing the old bacteria back into the colon to compete with the C Diff.

Fletcher has an autoimmune type of Colitis. Its probably the "better" one of the two autoimmune types as cutting the colon out is a permanent cure. We do it in such a way that you only need a bag for 6 months or so. After its all settled down it can be connected up again and you can go back to using the toilet instead.

Crohn's, which is the other type, is a nightmare to manage. It goes anywhere from "mouth to anus", and cutting it out does not get rid of it. It causes bits of bowel to tunnel through to bladder, other bits of bowl, as well as bursting leaving stool to collect in your abdomen. We cut out the diseased bits if they burst or start tunnelling but they just keep on coming back. You tend to end up with more than one bag with this one if you've got it bad.
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Right. Are there any preventative measures? :eek:
 
johnson said:
I have colitis but fortunatley mine got under control and is now normal, got some top drugs off the specialist.

Was very inflamed and was hell for a while but I can control mine and now I dont even need the tablets.

When it was first got it was scared stiff about getting the one Fletcher has or Chrons, so I know all the symptoms and its game over if you get that.

I'd be very suprised if Fletcher comes back like, but I guess he has money so can get top treatment, didnt realise it was such a common disease, thought it was more the old population.

They also have no idea what causes it.
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They think it might be something to do with Milk and are researching into that.

Stress can be a massive trigger for a flare up, so being a footballer playing for Fergie can't help.
 
makumstu said:
They think it might be something to do with Milk and are researching into that.

Stress can be a massive trigger for a flare up, so being a footballer playing for Fergie can't help.
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Also gluten (wheat, etc)? I read somewhere that in some people some enzyme produces proteins from gluten that causes their immune system to get confused and attack the intestinal wall. It can also lead to general autoimmune problems such as rheumatoid arthritis.

They reckon loads of people have this to some degree and don't know, particularly in the West. Worth getting screened.

They're discussing this general topic on 5live now.
 
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