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Don't forget Palestine eitherDon`t forget Rwanda. Nearly one million people died in 100 days. Unbelievable that something like this could happen while the UN stood by and did nothing.
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Don't forget Palestine eitherDon`t forget Rwanda. Nearly one million people died in 100 days. Unbelievable that something like this could happen while the UN stood by and did nothing.
That was considered in Operation Unthinkable but was judged to be unworkable.Sure I read that Churchill wanted to make a u turn and have the UK and US declare war on Russia with the help of German and Japanese forces to get them over with.
Where can I watch that mate?I`m going this summer. I thought I had seen and read just about everything about the Holocaust but the documentary Night Will Fall opened up a whole new level of brutality. The images were truly sickening and how ordinary, civilised people could get swept along with this is a stark reminder about how close we are to barbarity when the thin veil of civilisation is lifted.
Not everyone did. At least NATO put forces on the ground and some people were helped.True, and we also stood by while atrocities happened in the Balkans.
It was on Channel 4 on Saturday so will probably be available on their iplayer thing. It might also be repeated on More4 too.Where can I watch that mate?
It's hard to believe that a previously civilised society could do this to fellow human beings until you realise it has happened, on a somewhat smaller scale, in other places.
Obscene!
Not everyone did. At least NATO put forces on the ground and some people were helped.
Sure I read that Churchill wanted to make a u turn and have the UK and US declare war on Russia with the help of German and Japanese forces to get them over with.
I go over to Germany now and again and the subject has been touched on but it's not really something they talk about.Not just a civilised society but one of the most advanced on the planet at the time. I've given up asking why.
Not just a civilised society but one of the most advanced on the planet at the time. I've given up asking why.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Auschwitz_Entrance_2006.jpgWas sat on the wooden seat outside on the left of the train entrance of Berkenau 3 months ago, just thinking and thinking
I went back in april, its a horrible place but at the same time a mint experience
Stood on the gallows where they hung hoess or horse or whatever hes called
f***ing crazy to think i stood in that exact same spot
Aye, shamefully slow to react.Eventually.
As were the the Brits at the time who don't really have a great record with this to be fair; the Boer war concentration camps were not exactly pleasant, and the Aborigines and their entire language were all but wiped out in Australia. Same could be said for a lot of other European colonial campaigns, Red Indians, most of South America, New Zealand etc. were it was believed the European's were a stronger race of people, which is what the Nazi's ultimately also believed. Let's not forget the thousands of African men, woman and children that were boxed below decks on boats, the majority of which died, over the Atlantic to be slaves. I guess it's harder to see it being on the same level because of the graphic footage that's now available.
The Boer war concentration camps were nothing at all like the Nazi death camps. They weren't intended as death camps ffsAs were the the Brits at the time who don't really have a great record with this to be fair; the Boer war concentration camps were not exactly pleasant, and the Aborigines and their entire language were all but wiped out in Australia. Same could be said for a lot of other European colonial campaigns, Red Indians, most of South America, New Zealand etc. were it was believed the European's were a stronger race of people, which is what the Nazi's ultimately also believed. Let's not forget the thousands of African men, woman and children that were boxed below decks on boats, the majority of which died, over the Atlantic to be slaves. I guess it's harder to see it being on the same level because of the graphic footage that's now available.
this^^^^Although shameful it's hardly on the same scale as the industrialised murder of 6 million men, women and children.
I remember watching Escape from Sobibor on the telly a few years ago. I just sat there stunned.Although shameful it's hardly on the same scale as the industrialised murder of 6 million men, women and children.
One thing i always remember when i see it in the paper etc is walking up the long path just through the entrance, then the train carriage in the middle. Shows a picture of a little old bloke being told to walk up the path, you get to the top and theres a gas chamber waiting at the top for themI thought about the place for months after, thinking about if that was me, the wife and kids
Seeing all the kids stuff in Auschwitz was bad, walking down towards the gas chambers in Birkenau was horrible with all the pictures of family's walking the same route
The Boer war concentration camps were nothing at all like the Nazi death camps. They weren't intended as death camps ffs