Auschwitz 70 Years On.

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mickb2112 said:
I`m going this summer. I thought I had seen and read just about everything about the Holocaust but the documentary Night Will Fall opened up a whole new level of brutality. The images were truly sickening and how ordinary, civilised people could get swept along with this is a stark reminder about how close we are to barbarity when the thin veil of civilisation is lifted.
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Where can I watch that mate?
 
Horatio Pugwash said:
It's hard to believe that a previously civilised society could do this to fellow human beings until you realise it has happened, on a somewhat smaller scale, in other places.
Obscene!
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Not just a civilised society but one of the most advanced on the planet at the time. I've given up asking why.
 
I went back in april, its a horrible place but at the same time a mint experience

Stood on the gallows where they hung hoess or horse or whatever hes called :cool:
 
Narraback said:
Not just a civilised society but one of the most advanced on the planet at the time. I've given up asking why.
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As were the the Brits at the time who don't really have a great record with this to be fair; the Boer war concentration camps were not exactly pleasant, and the Aborigines and their entire language were all but wiped out in Australia. Same could be said for a lot of other European colonial campaigns, Red Indians, most of South America, New Zealand etc. were it was believed the European's were a stronger race of people, which is what the Nazi's ultimately also believed. Let's not forget the thousands of African men, woman and children that were boxed below decks on boats, the majority of which died, over the Atlantic to be slaves. I guess it's harder to see it being on the same level because of the graphic footage that's now available.
 
AFCSR6 said:
As were the the Brits at the time who don't really have a great record with this to be fair; the Boer war concentration camps were not exactly pleasant, and the Aborigines and their entire language were all but wiped out in Australia. Same could be said for a lot of other European colonial campaigns, Red Indians, most of South America, New Zealand etc. were it was believed the European's were a stronger race of people, which is what the Nazi's ultimately also believed. Let's not forget the thousands of African men, woman and children that were boxed below decks on boats, the majority of which died, over the Atlantic to be slaves. I guess it's harder to see it being on the same level because of the graphic footage that's now available.
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Although shameful it's hardly on the same scale as the industrialised murder of 6 million men, women and children.
 
AFCSR6 said:
As were the the Brits at the time who don't really have a great record with this to be fair; the Boer war concentration camps were not exactly pleasant, and the Aborigines and their entire language were all but wiped out in Australia. Same could be said for a lot of other European colonial campaigns, Red Indians, most of South America, New Zealand etc. were it was believed the European's were a stronger race of people, which is what the Nazi's ultimately also believed. Let's not forget the thousands of African men, woman and children that were boxed below decks on boats, the majority of which died, over the Atlantic to be slaves. I guess it's harder to see it being on the same level because of the graphic footage that's now available.
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The Boer war concentration camps were nothing at all like the Nazi death camps. They weren't intended as death camps ffs

Narraback said:
Although shameful it's hardly on the same scale as the industrialised murder of 6 million men, women and children.
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this^^^^

Narraback said:
Although shameful it's hardly on the same scale as the industrialised murder of 6 million men, women and children.
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I remember watching Escape from Sobibor on the telly a few years ago. I just sat there stunned.
Pure Evil
 
j.w said:
I thought about the place for months after, thinking about if that was me, the wife and kids

Seeing all the kids stuff in Auschwitz was bad, walking down towards the gas chambers in Birkenau was horrible with all the pictures of family's walking the same route
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One thing i always remember when i see it in the paper etc is walking up the long path just through the entrance, then the train carriage in the middle. Shows a picture of a little old bloke being told to walk up the path, you get to the top and theres a gas chamber waiting at the top for them :eek::eek:
 
Horatio Pugwash said:
The Boer war concentration camps were nothing at all like the Nazi death camps. They weren't intended as death camps ffs
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Boer_War#Concentration_camps_.281900.E2.80.931902.29

The camps had originally been set up by the British Army as "refugee camps" to provide refuge for civilian families who had been forced to abandon their homes for whatever reason related to the war. However, when Kitchener succeeded Roberts as commander-in-chief in South Africa on 29 November 1900, the British Army introduced new tactics in an attempt to break the guerrilla campaign and the influx of civilians grew dramatically as a result. Kitchener initiated plans to

flush out guerrillas in a series of systematic drives, organised like a sporting shoot, with success defined in a weekly 'bag' of killed, captured and wounded, and to sweep the country bare of everything that could give sustenance to the guerrillas, including women and children ... It was the clearance of civilians—uprooting a whole nation—that would come to dominate the last phase of the war
 
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