Local cricket 20 & 21 June

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wicketkeeper said:
But we all know that with the pyramid system that we now have in local cricket clubs will pay out to avoid relegation. This is another downside of the premier league. When we had the old system of the Durham Senior league/Coast league etc. a team like Durham City or Seaham Harbour could finish bottom of the league for years and know that they were safe therefore they did not have the pressure to spend money. Nowadays clubs are forced to pay money if they want to stay in the league and you are getting clubs with very little tradition like Washington, Brandon, etc.taking the place of clubs with a proud history.
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I think it is unfair to single out any clubs for spending money and showing ambition regardless of their heritage or history. If they have the money and commitment to long term stability and development then fair play to any club who want to progress. However there are certainly elements of your post I agree with.

The vast majority of DCL2 clubs have paid professionals and in some cases local lads who will certainly be getting a few quid as well. I dont think it is necessarily a level of cricket where players should be getting paid to play given that is the fourth tier of the pyramid. What this means is that all clubs will feel pressure, as you say, to pay players in order to either compete or survive in the league. I know its something that our club will be looking into / required to do next season to compete better despite not really being all that keen on doing so.
 
On behalf of all of the committee and coaches at Willington, Brandon and Wahington I humbly seek your forgiveness for recruiting young people to the game of cricket and then coaching them and we are really sorry that we went out to apply for grants to improve facilities and how dare we go into schools who did not play cricket and suggest that the kids there might want to give it a go.

I think I better have a word with the lads at Littletown as well as they seem to want to develop and move up the leagues, but they need to know that as they have never been in the Senior League they are not welcome at the top table.

Tell you what all four clubs will apply to rejoin the NEDCL as that is where we belong.
 
Old Timer said:
On behalf of all of the committee and coaches at Willington, Brandon and Wahington I humbly seek your forgiveness for recruiting young people to the game of cricket and then coaching them and we are really sorry that we went out to apply for grants to improve facilities and how dare we go into schools who did not play cricket and suggest that the kids there might want to give it a go.

I think I better have a word with the lads at Littletown as well as they seem to want to develop and move up the leagues, but they need to know that as they have never been in the Senior League they are not welcome at the top table.

Tell you what all four clubs will apply to rejoin the NEDCL as that is where we belong.
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Quality :)
 
Old Timer said:
On behalf of all of the committee and coaches at Willington, Brandon and Wahington I humbly seek your forgiveness for recruiting young people to the game of cricket and then coaching them and we are really sorry that we went out to apply for grants to improve facilities and how dare we go into schools who did not play cricket and suggest that the kids there might want to give it a go.

I think I better have a word with the lads at Littletown as well as they seem to want to develop and move up the leagues, but they need to know that as they have never been in the Senior League they are not welcome at the top table.

Tell you what all four clubs will apply to rejoin the NEDCL as that is where we belong.
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Excellent post... Oh to be held in the same esteem as the "traditional" clubs of the North East...

Some f**king woeful posts on this thread mind!!!
 
wicketkeeper said:
There are ex senior league teams playing in the durham cricket league



Don't want to compete don't make me laugh. The team I played for won the league 3 years out of 4 when I played and won more cups than the years Brandon and Washington have been in existence.
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wicketkeeper said:
And remind me before the last couple of years what major leagues did they compete in. How many major cups have they won. Can't even remember them being in any of the cups we played in.
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Horrendous post. Arrogant in the extreme.
 
wicketkeeper said:
There are ex senior league teams playing in the durham cricket league



Don't want to compete don't make me laugh. The team I played for won the league 3 years out of 4 when I played and won more cups than the years Brandon and Washington have been in existence.
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So who is that club and where are they now?

Still don't understand your vitriol towards two clubs who are well ran and have ambition.
 
brandon said:
So who is that club and where are they now?

Still don't understand your vitriol towards two clubs who are well ran and have ambition.
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Hope he does not name the club as unfortunately people might assume everybody associated at that club will have the same opinion which I am sure will not be the case.

Can't imagine he will be aware of how those clubs are run tbh,so don't really understand why he is making the comments he is
 
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The Voice Of Reason said:
Quality :)
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Remind me again which leagues did Washington win to work its way through the pyramid to the 2nd division of the premier. Or we're they just gifted a place? It's a joke that the likes of them are in the premier league whilst clubs like Durham city who regularly provided many players for durham when they were a minor county are in the durham cricket league. Philadelphia and horden who virtually ruled the senior league in the 70s and 90s are also in the durham cricket league.

brandon said:
So who is that club and where are they now?

Still don't understand your vitriol towards two clubs who are well ran and have ambition.
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If you anything about the history of local cricket you would know which club it is.
 
wicketkeeper said:
Remind me again which leagues did Washington win to work its way through the pyramid to the 2nd division of the premier. Or we're they just gifted a place? It's a joke that the likes of them are in the premier league whilst clubs like Durham city who regularly provided many players for durham when they were a minor county are in the durham cricket league. Philadelphia and horden who virtually ruled the senior league in the 70s and 90s are also in the durham cricket league.
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Surely though you can't dispute if a team works it way through the leagues,due to good organisation,due diligence with spending and putting a infrastructure in place with a good junior set up,that they should be denied promotion to a higher league just because a team has more perceived more tradition.

Surely not?
 
Voice of fair play said:
Surely though you can't dispute if a team works it way through the leagues,due to good organisation,due diligence with spending and putting a infrastructure in place with a good junior set up,that they should be denied promotion to a higher league just because a team has more perceived more tradition.

Surely not?
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That is the system so no if they worked their way through the leagues you can't dispute it.. But I would rather we didn't have the system. There was nothing wrong with the way it was. Also some of the clubs I mentioned have not as you put it worked their way through they were gifted a place in the 2nd division of premier league at the expense of more established and successful clubs who deserved it more.

Old Timer said:
On behalf of all of the committee and coaches at Willington, Brandon and Wahington I humbly seek your forgiveness for recruiting young people to the game of cricket and then coaching them and we are really sorry that we went out to apply for grants to improve facilities and how dare we go into schools who did not play cricket and suggest that the kids there might want to give it a go.

I think I better have a word with the lads at Littletown as well as they seem to want to develop and move up the leagues, but they need to know that as they have never been in the Senior League they are not welcome at the top table.

Tell you what all four clubs will apply to rejoin the NEDCL as that is where we belong.
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Agree with this last sentence
 
wicketkeeper said:
That is the system so no if they worked their way through the leagues you can't dispute it.. But I would rather we didn't have the system. There was nothing wrong with the way it was. Also some of the clubs I mentioned have not as you put it worked their way through they were gifted a place in the 2nd division of premier league at the expense of more established and successful clubs who deserved it more.
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I agree with you about teams spending their way to success you only have to look at what happened at Kimblesworth,once money dried up everyone left.

However can't understand how you are against a system,that allows a well run club to progress,that must be allowed surely?

The old system meant a team could work hard behind the scenes to get their club in a healthy state,but be denied progress by a outdated system.
 
SAFC2403 said:
Horrendous post. Arrogant in the extreme.
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True though. Some people don't like the truth

Voice of fair play said:
I agree with you about teams spending their way to success you only have to look at what happened at Kimblesworth,once money dried up everyone left.

However can't understand how you are against a system,that allows a well run club to progress,that must be allowed surely?

The old system meant a team could work hard behind the scenes to get their club in a healthy state,but be denied progress by a outdated system.
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Members of the senior league didn't think it was outdated. They were very happy with it. They were blackmailed and threatened into changing it by people who cared not a jot about local cricket and only concern was the county.
 
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wicketkeeper said:
True though. Some people don't like the truth



Members of the senior league didn't think it was outdated. They were very happy with it. They were blackmailed and threatened into changing it by people who cared not a jot about local cricket and only concern was the county.
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That may have been the case but separate issue from allowing a well run to progress,I am not for the county more for the benefit of local cricket and keep coming back to the same point,which is a well run,organised club should be allowed to progress.
 
Voice of fair play said:
That may have been the case but separate issue from allowing a well run to progress,I am not for the county more for the benefit of local cricket and keep coming back to the same point,which is a well run,organised club should be allowed to progress.
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They cud under the old system there was no need to wreck the senior league. Teams worked their way to the top of the senior league / coast league and played off for entry to the premier league if they wanted to.
 
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wicketkeeper said:
They cud under the old system there was no need to wreck the senior league. Teams worked their way to the top of the senior league / coast league and played off for entry to the premier league if they wanted to.
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That was the problem.

A condition of having Premier League status and ECB funding is mandatory promotion and relegation. The Senior League blocked this by not promoting teams and refusing entry into the league of the team relegated from the NEPL. The preference of the NEPL was to keep the old pyramid structure but have it working properly. They only set up their First Division when the Senior League circumvented every other league by trying to recruit teams into their own separate entity.
 
YES WE GYAN said:
The downfall of the Senior League was their own fault. It was badly mismanaged towards the end.
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How

I know for a fact the premier league had been threatening to do this for some time and in doing so the destroyed a league that had been in existence for over 100 yrs

wicketkeeper said:
How

I know for a fact the premier league had been threatening to do this for some time and in doing so they destroyed a league that had been in existence for over 100 yrs
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