Zarah Aleena killer gets 38 years

Jap Stammer said:
If he stops eating all of his food or goes on hunger strike, let him starve. He forfeited all of his 'human' rights when he committed the level of crime that got him there in the first place.
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In your opinion perhaps, but in reality you are wrong. He does NOT lose his human rights.

This includes the right to be alive and the right to be treated humanely by his guards while in prison (hopefully for the rest of his life).

This may not sit well with you because of your current anger at what he has done but it is how the system is set up and rightly so.

The fact that I strongly support the concept of universal human rights does not mean I am any less sickened or revolted at what he has done. He should never be released.
 


Kent_Mackem said:
In your opinion perhaps, but in reality you are wrong. He does NOT lose his human rights.

This includes the right to be alive and the right to be treated humanely by his guards while in prison (hopefully for the rest of his life).

This may not sit well with you because of your current anger at what he has done but it is how the system is set up and rightly so.

The fact that I strongly support the concept of universal human rights does not mean I am any less sickened or revolted at what he has done. He should never be released.
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Perhaps I should have said 'all but the most basic of human rights'.

I never said he should be treated inhumanely but that he should have his contact with other human beings limited to his guards - quite frankly, he doesn't deserve any more human interaction than that. As to what level of interaction the people guarding him choose to give, that is entirely up to them.

If he then decides to starve himself then that is his choice. Minimal time or effort should be made to persuade (or force) him to do otherwise. His demise will be no loss to society and will also save a few bob as well.

He may have the right to be alive but it should not be a comfortable life and every opportunity should be made to remind him of why he is where he is - that includes the facilities he is allowed access to and the level of interaction he is afforded with other people.
 
The Albanian said:
The death penalty isn’t a deterrent - look at the US who have the death penalty but absolutely loads of violent crimes going on every day. The death penalty wouldn’t have stopped this lad from killing this lassy cos he’s a nut job
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They have an awful lot of guns though don't they - maybe something to do with it?

Maybe not a deterrent then - call in a punishment?
 
Jakata said:
And hounded a gay chap off the forum. Still here though
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The previous things I have acknowledged and apologised for, they were a long time ago and I have made it clear I am sorry. That however I have no recollection of. If you can post where I said this I will happily apologise for this aswell
 
Jap Stammer said:
For crimes like this there should be another level of incarceration/punishment. The is no redeeming or rehabilitating people like this.

He should be made to serve the whole sentence in solitary confinement - no human contact other than the guards who bring and take way his food. No access to television or any form of electronic media - no games consoles etc. Only basic medical care should be provided.

If he stops eating all of his food or goes on hunger strike, let him starve. He forfeited all of his 'human' rights when he committed the level of crime that got him there in the first place.

Once the food has been untouched for a month or so, send in some 'clean-up' specialists to shovel him into a body-bag and dump him in a landfill site somewhere.

Of course, none of this would be necessary if he was sentenced properly in the first place and not let out to escalate his criminal urges. Some people are just bad and cannot be saved.
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Some good points mate - but what you are proposing will have the human rights lot saying this is even 'more' inhumane that the death penalty :rolleyes:
 
Frijj said:
What racial minority does he belong to?

You appear to be under the impression that people of minority ethnic backgrounds can’t commit racially aggravated crimes.
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They can obviously.
However it never seems to attract the same attention as a white perpetrator would.
This lad whatever ethnicity he is deserves the death sentence .
 
Keyser Soze said:
Some good points mate - but what you are proposing will have the human rights lot saying this is even 'more' inhumane that the death penalty :rolleyes:
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Oh, without a doubt.

But the people who say that should ask themselves one question - Are the perpetrators 'human' rights more important than those of the victim whose life he took?

Just my opinion, of course, but he lost the access to other than the most basic of human rights the minute he deliberately took that young lass's life.
 
I am Boss said:
Ignoring the death penalty issue, why doesn’t this meet the “life means life” threshold? He could still end up with 30 years of freedom on a state pension with loads of protection.

Rehabilitation is a fools endeavour on people like this and even if they could be rehabilitated, they don’t deserve that chance
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He has a 38 year rec, cannot be considered for parole until then , not likely to get it first time he will die in prison.
 

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