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WMS Who Owns Sunderland AFC?

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Spot on, the quicker these Minutes are released the better.Somethings not right,Can you remember i posted last season that the club had no intention of going up in the short term,yourself and think it was riff raff backed me up.Now i am feeling just the same,not long till we find out, in the Jan window.As you say if we have been led up the garden path again all hell will break out.
But will 'all hell break out'?
A very tolerant bunch are Sunderland supporters.
Would the shoulders just be shrugged?
We've been lied to again, oh well we're used to it would likely be the reaction.
 
the best way for fans to be able to hold owners to account is for a club to be profitable...because if its profitable..owners will listen to those who made it so, ie the fans, whereas if a club incurs heavy losses so the owner is paying out..then the ower wont listen to those who made it loss making, ie the fans

Hahaha. What on earth are you prattling on about?!
How the fuck can fans make football clubs ‘loss making’?
It’s up to owners to cut their cloth accordingly. There are plenty Premier League clubs making a loss. Is it the fault of the supporters for not buying enough pies and club keyrings?
 
wage bill is a sign of the owners commitment-not geerating the cash to pay the wage bill by not selling out the ground in the premier league is a sign of the fans not doing there bit

despite the owners apparent commitment the team were fighting relegation almost every season.

to have crowds in the top 6 of the league is nothing less than amazing considering what was being served up.
 
Hahaha. What on earth are you prattling on about?!
How the fuck can fans make football clubs ‘loss making’?
It’s up to owners to cut their cloth accordingly. There are plenty Premier League clubs making a loss. Is it the fault of the supporters for not buying enough pies and club keyrings?
But when we cut our cloth accordingly, everyone had a meltdown.
 
wage bill is a sign of the owners commitment-not geerating the cash to pay the wage bill by not selling out the ground in the premier league is a sign of the fans not doing there bit
Tell me which club generates enough thro their ticket sales to fund their wage bill.
Hahaha. What on earth are you prattling on about?!
How the fuck can fans make football clubs ‘loss making’?
It’s up to owners to cut their cloth accordingly. There are plenty Premier League clubs making a loss. Is it the fault of the supporters for not buying enough pies and club keyrings?
He's gone full dafty this afternoon like. :lol:
 
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well they do....i mean...customers, the number of them and how much they spend, are what determines whether every business in the history of humanity is profitable or not..why is SAFC an exception to that age old rule?
So the fans are directly to blame and responsible for the losses arising from deals like Rodwell and Alvarez and countless other horrific bits of business on a descending scale of shitness. Those two alone probably cost the club in excess of £40M for absolutely zero return. SAFC had PL money, match-day revenues and other income over £130M a year, it is not the 'customers' fault that the club was badly mismanaged. Unlike "every" business you mention the % of revenues from fans attending games is a small proportion of overall income.
 
Tell me which club generates enough thro their ticket sales to fund their wage bill.

He's gone full dafty this afternoon like. :lol:
there are lots of profitable clubs who generate enough from revenues, including ticket sales, to pay for the costof the club. Chelsea made a profit in their last accounts, abramavhich took a payment of £4.4m and they still won the champions league the next season. Man utd are very profitable. six league one clubs made a profit in the year pre pandemic...
 
Ticket sales alone, probably most in L1/L2, given the SCMP caps of 60/55% of income, in which divisions ticket sales are the largest element of turnover.
Premier League clubs obviously. Seeing as that is what our entire discussion is about.
there are lots of profitable clubs who generate enough from revenues, including ticket sales, to pay for the costof the club. Chelsea made a profit in their last accounts, abramavhich took a payment of £4.4m and they still won the champions league the next season. Man utd are very profitable. six league one clubs made a profit in the year pre pandemic...
Woah there. Ticket sales you said. Let's stick with the silly point you were making.
 
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