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Tony Mowbray - Boro Supporter View
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the dark one
Striker
He's that good we named a park after him ffs.
Sea to Shining Sea
Striker
Why aye. Because I bet 48 hours ago you’d have been saying Mowbray was an excellent alternative to Neil and also a better option than Chris Wilder
Roker Magic
Central Defender
Excellent post mate. Thanks for taking the time to give us this. Good gesture from a Boro fan! We don't all think it's a bad idea. If it's Tony, he gets my full support from the off.Firstly, I feel a sense of recognition when "Hank Williams" asks me as a Boro supporter to pass on some views on this messageboard on Tony Mowbray. Such a request from the No.1 closet Boro supporter is the ultimate accolade!
Down to business.
I saw Tony Mowbray make his Boro debut in 1982 (aged 18) at Sid James Park, go on to be our most inspirational captain (appointed aged 22) through arguably the most momentous period in the clubs history and in total saw around 80% of his 400+ home and away appearances for Boro. When he left Boro I followed his playing and later Managerial career which included a term at Boro.
He took over as Boro manager after the dual poor appointments of Southgate and Strachan. We were in a complete mess and heading for League One. He saved us from that fate and made genuine progress. The club didn't even have dossiers on individual players ... Mowbray brought his own with him to the club. I could mention numerous stories about his dedication and commitment to his managerial roles but won't bore you. He was left with a team of journeymen, young lads, has beens and never have beens. Several of these were Scottish players he had previously binned as Celtic manager who Strachan then brought to Boro! He made some quality signings on a shoestring budget and gave the supporters belief back. Most of the loyal Boro fans I know would have him back at the drop of a hat.
He has had a lifetime immersed in football and managed and played at the highest level in England and Scotland. As with all Managers hasn't always had it his own way but has steadied the ship with most clubs and also has gained promotions.
He has a positive track record of developing young players, playing a passing game and has a great eye for a player. Mowbray has a career record of 41% wins (Roy Keane achieved 42% at Sunderland as a comparison).
A North East lad who is astute, proud, genuine, honest and loyal. Mowbray also has very strong personal values and high levels of integrity. Don't underestimate any of these qualities.
He is well respected by many in the game.
What has surprised me is some of the vitriol I have read on this messageboard about him. Clearly not good enough for the vast majority of posters on here who have completely dismissed him as an option whilst some others have resorted to personal insults. Having known and worked with Sunderland supporters for many years, I'll be honest, I thought you were better than that.
Having had the likes of Simon Grayson, Chris Coleman, Phil Parkinson et al managing your club in recent times, someone like Mowbray should be given more consideration instead of being ridiculed.
Come to think of it the question should really be not does Sunderland need Tony Mowbray but does Tony Mowbray need Sunderland? He completed his full 5-years contract at his last club - Blackburn (not many managers do that these days - indeed Sunderland had 7 permanent managers during that time). He achieved promotion from League One in the process and in his last season had a young team challenging for promotion to the Premier League.
I suspect his reservations will be thinking that Sunderland is a club that in the last twenty years have had nearly as many permanent managers and in addition several owners including the current ones who are small-time, inexperienced, inflexible, don't value their manager and haven't invested much money. At least that is as it appears to an outsider.
Believe me Tony Mowbray would be a quality appointment for Sunderland (although it pains me to say that). It would be steady progress to achieve the clubs goals ... probably not quick enough for the twitterati and most posters on here but surely solid foundations, continuity and sustainability are key ingredients Sunderland have been lacking for years.
Tony Mowbray is your man.
People would be mocking you for suggesting Neil is leaving more than anything though.
Some of the other suggestions are much worse. The MK manager for example like jesus wept, let's take someone who's never managed in the championship and hope for the best. Suppose he'd have experience when we play Forest Green next season. Similar to Robins, why would he want to come here for, we're a newly promoted League One team and he's building something there. No-one in management at this level or above will realistically come here unless you splashed the £££ then you've got a mercenary anyway like Stoke have just got.
Mate its 16 yrs since he got the baggies promoted , he's done fuck all since . Unless you think swanning about mid table for 4 years in the championship is "not a bad record " and qualifies him for the job ?
The alternatives that some of us would prefer to the usual merry go round of old managers , are younger coaches ( am not saying that would be the right choice , but I would always want to have a go rather than settle for mediocrity which is TM all over).
He's a dinosaur in terms of managerial success, as I posted above , its 16 yrs since he got WBA promoted. that may as well be pre f***ing war , the games moved on.
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Sea to Shining Sea
Striker
Well funnily enough, I actually was mocked yesterday morning when I suggested Neil wasn’t happy at the club. That’s the way of this board.
We’re signing players who’ve never played Championship (or even in this country) and hoping for the best, why is recruiting for the coaching department any different?
Casper
Midfield
You can't take a manager out of the team if he's not doing well.
Mr Redknapp
Striker
for the petulance.But a lad has took the time to post a lengthy and informative post on here and I'm looking forward to see what happens over the next few weeks
Forlonhope
Reserve Squad
Half of these on here were saying the same about the knob that just left mate . If he has north east values he will do for meFirstly, I feel a sense of recognition when "Hank Williams" asks me as a Boro supporter to pass on some views on this messageboard on Tony Mowbray. Such a request from the No.1 closet Boro supporter is the ultimate accolade!
Down to business.
I saw Tony Mowbray make his Boro debut in 1982 (aged 18) at Sid James Park, go on to be our most inspirational captain (appointed aged 22) through arguably the most momentous period in the clubs history and in total saw around 80% of his 400+ home and away appearances for Boro. When he left Boro I followed his playing and later Managerial career which included a term at Boro.
He took over as Boro manager after the dual poor appointments of Southgate and Strachan. We were in a complete mess and heading for League One. He saved us from that fate and made genuine progress. The club didn't even have dossiers on individual players ... Mowbray brought his own with him to the club. I could mention numerous stories about his dedication and commitment to his managerial roles but won't bore you. He was left with a team of journeymen, young lads, has beens and never have beens. Several of these were Scottish players he had previously binned as Celtic manager who Strachan then brought to Boro! He made some quality signings on a shoestring budget and gave the supporters belief back. Most of the loyal Boro fans I know would have him back at the drop of a hat.
He has had a lifetime immersed in football and managed and played at the highest level in England and Scotland. As with all Managers hasn't always had it his own way but has steadied the ship with most clubs and also has gained promotions.
He has a positive track record of developing young players, playing a passing game and has a great eye for a player. Mowbray has a career record of 41% wins (Roy Keane achieved 42% at Sunderland as a comparison).
A North East lad who is astute, proud, genuine, honest and loyal. Mowbray also has very strong personal values and high levels of integrity. Don't underestimate any of these qualities.
He is well respected by many in the game.
What has surprised me is some of the vitriol I have read on this messageboard about him. Clearly not good enough for the vast majority of posters on here who have completely dismissed him as an option whilst some others have resorted to personal insults. Having known and worked with Sunderland supporters for many years, I'll be honest, I thought you were better than that.
Having had the likes of Simon Grayson, Chris Coleman, Phil Parkinson et al managing your club in recent times, someone like Mowbray should be given more consideration instead of being ridiculed.
Come to think of it the question should really be not does Sunderland need Tony Mowbray but does Tony Mowbray need Sunderland? He completed his full 5-years contract at his last club - Blackburn (not many managers do that these days - indeed Sunderland had 7 permanent managers during that time). He achieved promotion from League One in the process and in his last season had a young team challenging for promotion to the Premier League.
I suspect his reservations will be thinking that Sunderland is a club that in the last twenty years have had nearly as many permanent managers and in addition several owners including the current ones who are small-time, inexperienced, inflexible, don't value their manager and haven't invested much money. At least that is as it appears to an outsider.
Believe me Tony Mowbray would be a quality appointment for Sunderland (although it pains me to say that). It would be steady progress to achieve the clubs goals ... probably not quick enough for the twitterati and most posters on here but surely solid foundations, continuity and sustainability are key ingredients Sunderland have been lacking for years.
Tony Mowbray is your man.
Select coaches
Striker
I’m sure he’s a great bloke.
I’m willing to give him a chance but im
Underwhelmed
I’m willing to give him a chance but im
Underwhelmed
North Yorks Mackem
Winger
It's mainly boro fans where I live and they seem to find it amusing he's coming to us. I think that says it all.
Going to reply together as it's the same response pretty much.
Honestly I don't think he's the best of the best but right now we shouldn't be taking a risk as there's always two sides to risk. We just need to stay up this season and then prove what the team actually is. If we take a risk and it backfires we're straight back down to League One and bollocks to that. Even if he got us to 15th this season I'd be happy, next season set a target of 10th and if we don't get there sack him and then take a risk as it backfires we'll likely finish 18th instead.
I can't see any decent manager in a job wanting to come here because of these:
- We're a team that got promoted by the play offs from League One.
- We have a team full of kids with little / no experience and no-one can really judge what they're about.
- A manager left the club 24 hours before a game to, side step at best, another club.
- The same manager has been banging about transfers in the press for weeks.
- We have two owner who no-one knows anything about (KLD / Sartori) and one who is dodgy at best (Donald).
- We have a director of football.
- The club shop and ticket office isn't open to save money.
Also to the players comment, one player might make a position weak, a bad coach equals relegation. Massive difference.
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Sea to Shining Sea
Striker
Sounds like you’ve highlighted a number of structural issues at the club that would restrict us attracting high calibre coaches. That’s a problem in itself
Perryqhill
Striker
Firstly, I feel a sense of recognition when "Hank Williams" asks me as a Boro supporter to pass on some views on this messageboard on Tony Mowbray. Such a request from the No.1 closet Boro supporter is the ultimate accolade!
Down to business.
I saw Tony Mowbray make his Boro debut in 1982 (aged 18) at Sid James Park, go on to be our most inspirational captain (appointed aged 22) through arguably the most momentous period in the clubs history and in total saw around 80% of his 400+ home and away appearances for Boro. When he left Boro I followed his playing and later Managerial career which included a term at Boro.
He took over as Boro manager after the dual poor appointments of Southgate and Strachan. We were in a complete mess and heading for League One. He saved us from that fate and made genuine progress. The club didn't even have dossiers on individual players ... Mowbray brought his own with him to the club. I could mention numerous stories about his dedication and commitment to his managerial roles but won't bore you. He was left with a team of journeymen, young lads, has beens and never have beens. Several of these were Scottish players he had previously binned as Celtic manager who Strachan then brought to Boro! He made some quality signings on a shoestring budget and gave the supporters belief back. Most of the loyal Boro fans I know would have him back at the drop of a hat.
He has had a lifetime immersed in football and managed and played at the highest level in England and Scotland. As with all Managers hasn't always had it his own way but has steadied the ship with most clubs and also has gained promotions.
He has a positive track record of developing young players, playing a passing game and has a great eye for a player. Mowbray has a career record of 41% wins (Roy Keane achieved 42% at Sunderland as a comparison).
A North East lad who is astute, proud, genuine, honest and loyal. Mowbray also has very strong personal values and high levels of integrity. Don't underestimate any of these qualities.
He is well respected by many in the game.
What has surprised me is some of the vitriol I have read on this messageboard about him. Clearly not good enough for the vast majority of posters on here who have completely dismissed him as an option whilst some others have resorted to personal insults. Having known and worked with Sunderland supporters for many years, I'll be honest, I thought you were better than that.
Having had the likes of Simon Grayson, Chris Coleman, Phil Parkinson et al managing your club in recent times, someone like Mowbray should be given more consideration instead of being ridiculed.
Come to think of it the question should really be not does Sunderland need Tony Mowbray but does Tony Mowbray need Sunderland? He completed his full 5-years contract at his last club - Blackburn (not many managers do that these days - indeed Sunderland had 7 permanent managers during that time). He achieved promotion from League One in the process and in his last season had a young team challenging for promotion to the Premier League.
I suspect his reservations will be thinking that Sunderland is a club that in the last twenty years have had nearly as many permanent managers and in addition several owners including the current ones who are small-time, inexperienced, inflexible, don't value their manager and haven't invested much money. At least that is as it appears to an outsider.
Believe me Tony Mowbray would be a quality appointment for Sunderland (although it pains me to say that). It would be steady progress to achieve the clubs goals ... probably not quick enough for the twitterati and most posters on here but surely solid foundations, continuity and sustainability are key ingredients Sunderland have been lacking for years.
Tony Mowbray is your man.
Good read. On the vitriol/ negativity I think he's had a bit previous when he's been far from complimentary about us, including around 2006 when at WBA he had a bit of a meltdown towards us.
If it wasn't for his dourness in interviews, the Boro connection and the WBA period he'd probably have a bit more support.
Realistically from me he ticks many of the boxes the club seems to want. He's not a young progressive manager or an ambitious choice though, more a solid no-nonsense choice.
Can't really argue with that really I'm still on the fence with KLD etc tbh.
deleted.user.36592
Midfield
I still dont want him
