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Tony Mowbray - Boro Supporter View

Sea to Shining Sea said:
Alex Neil is 41 at the beginning of his career. He’d managed three clubs before Sunderland. He took Hamilton to the SPL and did well and then Norwich to the Premier League. He then took Sunderland up having inherited a very difficult situation.

Entirely different
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Mowbray got Hibs into Europe and WBA into the PL. He got Blackburn promoted from League One. Mowbray inherited a difficult situation at Boro and Blackburn. (He was shite at Celtic)

Neil took over Norwich when they were 7th in the Championship and got relegated after 1 season in PL. He got sacked after a poor start in the Championship. He got sacked at Preston with them sitting in 16th.

Similar.
 

Casper said:
Manning - who's team failed to capitalise on Rotherhams terrible form at the end of last season for automatics then were dumped out of the playoffs by Wycombe.

Mckenna - been a manager less than a year so far.

OGS - would want big money that this club isn't willing to spend. Did nothing at Cardiff. Under achieved with a very strong squad at Man U.

I was all for the idea of a young manager when I heard the news about Neil. But the more I've thought about it I think we need an experienced head to manage our team of inexperienced players.

Too much inexperience could be a disaster imo.
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Do you want a different three names? Should I keep giving them until I arrive at Mowbray in about three weeks time after I’ve listed everyone else?
 
Why sack Durban said:
We are Sunderland though . He’s bang average . Sustainability at Blackburn and Middlesbrough isn’t what we aspire to.
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Unfortunately it is now, on the cheap and "sustainable" now I'm afraid. Mind I'm not soooooo against Mowbray now after calming down a bit and reading his win percentage etc.
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
Mowbray had three middling to lower finishes and a flirtation with the play offs in the second division. That isn’t great success. Not by our standards and certainly not by Blackburn’s standards in the last 30 years.

Mowbray has no love for SAFC, is 58 and at the back end of his career. Even stripping emotion from this, it’s an appointment that makes no sense. We’ve heard stuff about projects, progressive development and sustainability and I see no coherent or logical argument that puts Tony Mowbray at the heart of that. None whatsoever.
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We are not privvy to the thinking behind it....maybe having seen what happened with the lengthy delay last time perhaps the wanted to act quicker......but to me it is a logical choice
 
Black Cat Gypsy said:
Mowbray got Hibs into Europe and WBA into the PL. He got Blackburn promoted from League One. Mowbray inherited a difficult situation at Boro and Blackburn. (He was shite at Celtic)

Neil took over Norwich when they were 7th in the Championship and got relegated after 1 season in PL. He got sacked after a poor start in the Championship. He got sacked at Preston with them sitting in 16th.

Similar.
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Similar if you extend the time period by about a decade, add a number of clubs, take a few of Mowbray’s shite seasons out of the equation and apply some mitigations to his record that you haven’t to Neil.
 
MrBraithwaite said:
  • February 2017 - Appointed on 18-month contract but unable to keep Blackburn in the Championship
  • 2017-18 - Blackburn secure automatic promotion from League One by finishing second with 96 points
  • 2018-19 - 15th in Championship with 60 points
  • 2019-20 - 11th, 63 points
  • 2020-21 - 15th, 57 points
  • 2021-22 - 8th, 69 points
It’s a good record
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It might look like a good record to a sunderland supporter reading how he did at Rovers. But that record would piss off an awful lot of supporters here , the crowds figures would certainly suffer for a start.
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
Do you want a different three names? Should I keep giving them until I arrive at Mowbray in about three weeks time after I’ve listed everyone else?
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I mean they were the first three you came up with. Do you think those three would give the stability we need at the minute? Or do you not agree there would be a fair bit of risk to it?

I completely get where you're coming from with the sustainability etc that's being peddled by the club and it doesn't match their messages. But I think as a newly promoted team we need a steady appointment. I don't think we have the luxury of taking a punt on a young manager in the current situation.
 
ontap said:
It might look like a good record to a sunderland supporter reading how he did at Rovers. But that record would piss off an awful lot of supporters here , the crowds figures would certainly suffer for a start.
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No it doesn't look like a good record at all. At best, it is bang f***ing average.
 
ontap said:
So what do we do in 3 years time when we finish 14th/15th ? and we have dropped 10,000 +. off the ST numbers
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Richie K said:
Why would that happen. We could finish 12th this season, 6th the following season and lose in play offs and then finish top 2....who knows? I'm not saying finishing 20th three years in a row would be great!
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As you say, anything can happen, and I'm sure he'll be sacked if we don't make any progress. It would hurt the sell-on model for a start.

But we need a reliable appointment ASAP to avoid last time's mess, and realistically he sounds like the best we can hope for in the time schedule and price bracket.

And many have said he's good at developing youngsters, so that's a plus.
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
Do you know what. I surrender.

Let’s be happy with Mowbray. It’s a great appointment, it really is. In fact, so great that yesterday morning, like everyone, I’d have been content with knowing Neil was going only to be replaced by Mowbray.

41%. Blackburn solid mid-table. Boro lad says he’s perfect. I’m all in
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🤣🤣🤣🏳🏳🏳
 
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Casper said:
I mean they were the first three you came up with. Do you think those three would give the stability we need at the minute? Or do you not agree there would be a fair bit of risk to it?

I completely get where you're coming from with the sustainability etc that's being peddled by the club and it doesn't match their messages. But I think as a newly promoted team we need a steady appointment. I don't think we have the luxury of taking a punt on a young manager in the current situation.
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Well in that case we don’t have the luxury of signing 18 year olds and 19 year olds from abroad when we need experience and know how. Maybe we should scrap that philosophy too if it’s all about the here and know and experience.
 
At least his appointment would fill diversity quotas.

His wife Judy, as his assistant, a baby as 'one for the future', a clown to cheer the team up, a policeman to make sure there's no funny business going on, except the clowning, of course, a hungry crocodile to make sure the players keep moving in training, Jack Ketch to quietly get rid of problem players, and a string of sausages to, erm, I dunno.

Sounds like a winning formula.
 
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