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Tony Mowbray - Boro Supporter View


Sea to Shining Sea said:
Well in that case we don’t have the luxury of signing 18 year olds and 19 year olds from abroad when we need experience and know how. Maybe we should scrap that philosophy too if it’s all about the here and know and experience.
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I personally would dumb it down. Think we're crying out for a bit of experience in there. Our most consistent players this season eg Batth, Stewart and Evans are that the more experienced lads.

I think this is a large part of why Neil is no longer here.
 
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Richie K said:
Definitely, which is why Neil jumped ship for maximum money now, 6 months of a hard slog in this league and his stock will have plateaued!
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For Neil it’s a better gig. They have a lot of resources due to the owners. If things went south here he wouldn’t get a better opportunity.
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
Do you know what. I surrender.

Let’s be happy with Mowbray. It’s a great appointment, it really is. In fact, so great that yesterday morning, like everyone, I’d have been content with knowing Neil was going only to be replaced by Mowbray.

41%. Blackburn solid mid-table. Boro lad says he’s perfect. I’m all in
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You don't like Mowbray we get it, other people are entitled to their opinion.

Just throwing this out here Sam Allardyce was the epitome of everything your describing here and was liked by most on here. Rank average Premier League manager, never got any club anywhere and also managed Newcastle.

Whereas Moyes, Grayson, O'Neill, Di Canio, Advocaat, Coleman, Johnson and Ross are the type of manager your clamming for and were all utter crap, one way or another and put the club where it is now.

Your saying his age is a bad thing but to flip the coin it's also his last chance to succeed somewhere and it's not as if he's got a bad record like others.
 
To be fair his West Brom team was pretty good and forward facing. That was about 15 year ago now though.

He seems like a sound bloke inal, some of the personal abuse is a bit harsh.

Would be a long way from my first choice mind
 
Zimba said:
You don't like Mowbray we get it, other people are entitled to their opinion.

Just throwing this out here Sam Allardyce was the epitome of everything your describing here and was liked by most on here. Rank average Premier League manager, never got any club anywhere and also managed Newcastle.

Whereas Moyes, Grayson, O'Neill, Di Canio, Advocaat, Coleman, Johnson and Ross are the type of manager your clamming for and were all utter crap, one way or another and put the club where it is now.

Your saying his age is a bad thing but to flip the coin it's also his last chance to succeed somewhere and it's not as if he's got a bad record like others.
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He also likes to play good passing football. A bit of style would be nice.
 
Zimba said:
You don't like Mowbray we get it, other people are entitled to their opinion.

Just throwing this out here Sam Allardyce was the epitome of everything your describing here and was liked by most on here. Rank average Premier League manager, never got any club anywhere and also managed Newcastle.

Whereas Moyes, Grayson, O'Neill, Di Canio, Advocaat, Coleman, Johnson and Ross are the type of manager your clamming for and were all utter crap, one way or another and put the club where it is now.

Your saying his age is a bad thing but to flip the coin it's also his last chance to succeed somewhere and it's not as if he's got a bad record like others.
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I believe these opinions to be entirely disingenuous and had I suggested him as a good and legitimate replacement for Neil 48 hours ago I’d have been relentlessly mocked (and rightly so!)
 
T_Bone said:
Let’s get this straight. If we employ Mowbray it is t what he achieved yonks ago, fact is he’s a dinosaur, he’s dissed our club but he’s available and a mate of Harvey.
If he signs the form to say he will agree to Speakman doing as he wishes then the jobs his.
If he gets this job we are stepping back three years at least.
This will be a disastrous move for our club,
Ffs a young owner being advised a dinosaur is our best option.
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58 a dinosaur! Always thought there were a load of kids on here. Some of these posts confirming it. 58 is not past it ffs
 
ERIMUS1876 said:
Firstly, I feel a sense of recognition when "Hank Williams" asks me as a Boro supporter to pass on some views on this messageboard on Tony Mowbray. Such a request from the No.1 closet Boro supporter is the ultimate accolade! ;)

Down to business.

I saw Tony Mowbray make his Boro debut in 1982 (aged 18) at Sid James Park, go on to be our most inspirational captain (appointed aged 22) through arguably the most momentous period in the clubs history and in total saw around 80% of his 400+ home and away appearances for Boro. When he left Boro I followed his playing and later Managerial career which included a term at Boro.

He took over as Boro manager after the dual poor appointments of Southgate and Strachan. We were in a complete mess and heading for League One. He saved us from that fate and made genuine progress. The club didn't even have dossiers on individual players ... Mowbray brought his own with him to the club. I could mention numerous stories about his dedication and commitment to his managerial roles but won't bore you. He was left with a team of journeymen, young lads, has beens and never have beens. Several of these were Scottish players he had previously binned as Celtic manager who Strachan then brought to Boro! He made some quality signings on a shoestring budget and gave the supporters belief back. Most of the loyal Boro fans I know would have him back at the drop of a hat.

He has had a lifetime immersed in football and managed and played at the highest level in England and Scotland. As with all Managers hasn't always had it his own way but has steadied the ship with most clubs and also has gained promotions.

He has a positive track record of developing young players, playing a passing game and has a great eye for a player. Mowbray has a career record of 41% wins (Roy Keane achieved 42% at Sunderland as a comparison).

A North East lad who is astute, proud, genuine, honest and loyal. Mowbray also has very strong personal values and high levels of integrity. Don't underestimate any of these qualities.

He is well respected by many in the game.

What has surprised me is some of the vitriol I have read on this messageboard about him. Clearly not good enough for the vast majority of posters on here who have completely dismissed him as an option whilst some others have resorted to personal insults. Having known and worked with Sunderland supporters for many years, I'll be honest, I thought you were better than that.

Having had the likes of Simon Grayson, Chris Coleman, Phil Parkinson et al managing your club in recent times, someone like Mowbray should be given more consideration instead of being ridiculed.

Come to think of it the question should really be not does Sunderland need Tony Mowbray but does Tony Mowbray need Sunderland? He completed his full 5-years contract at his last club - Blackburn (not many managers do that these days - indeed Sunderland had 7 permanent managers during that time). He achieved promotion from League One in the process and in his last season had a young team challenging for promotion to the Premier League.

I suspect his reservations will be thinking that Sunderland is a club that in the last twenty years have had nearly as many permanent managers and in addition several owners including the current ones who are small-time, inexperienced, inflexible, don't value their manager and haven't invested much money. At least that is as it appears to an outsider.

Believe me Tony Mowbray would be a quality appointment for Sunderland (although it pains me to say that). It would be steady progress to achieve the clubs goals ... probably not quick enough for the twitterati and most posters on here but surely solid foundations, continuity and sustainability are key ingredients Sunderland have been lacking for years.

Tony Mowbray is your man.
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Good post. I think you are only wrong when you say the vast majority. You must understand the fears. But I thank you for such a considered post and your positivity is a boost.
 
if it's Mowbray then let's just get him in quick- at first I was getting Joe Kinnear at Newcastle vibes, but Mowbray's record isn't bad- It really is absolutely imperative we don't get relegated this season- and I don't think he'll take us down
Rogue Badger said:
Mowbray could have us finish above Blackburn and Stoke. I'd take that for this season.
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hopefully one more team as well
 
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ERIMUS1876 said:
Firstly, I feel a sense of recognition when "Hank Williams" asks me as a Boro supporter to pass on some views on this messageboard on Tony Mowbray. Such a request from the No.1 closet Boro supporter is the ultimate accolade! ;)

Down to business.

I saw Tony Mowbray make his Boro debut in 1982 (aged 18) at Sid James Park, go on to be our most inspirational captain (appointed aged 22) through arguably the most momentous period in the clubs history and in total saw around 80% of his 400+ home and away appearances for Boro. When he left Boro I followed his playing and later Managerial career which included a term at Boro.

He took over as Boro manager after the dual poor appointments of Southgate and Strachan. We were in a complete mess and heading for League One. He saved us from that fate and made genuine progress. The club didn't even have dossiers on individual players ... Mowbray brought his own with him to the club. I could mention numerous stories about his dedication and commitment to his managerial roles but won't bore you. He was left with a team of journeymen, young lads, has beens and never have beens. Several of these were Scottish players he had previously binned as Celtic manager who Strachan then brought to Boro! He made some quality signings on a shoestring budget and gave the supporters belief back. Most of the loyal Boro fans I know would have him back at the drop of a hat.

He has had a lifetime immersed in football and managed and played at the highest level in England and Scotland. As with all Managers hasn't always had it his own way but has steadied the ship with most clubs and also has gained promotions.

He has a positive track record of developing young players, playing a passing game and has a great eye for a player. Mowbray has a career record of 41% wins (Roy Keane achieved 42% at Sunderland as a comparison).

A North East lad who is astute, proud, genuine, honest and loyal. Mowbray also has very strong personal values and high levels of integrity. Don't underestimate any of these qualities.

He is well respected by many in the game.

What has surprised me is some of the vitriol I have read on this messageboard about him. Clearly not good enough for the vast majority of posters on here who have completely dismissed him as an option whilst some others have resorted to personal insults. Having known and worked with Sunderland supporters for many years, I'll be honest, I thought you were better than that.

Having had the likes of Simon Grayson, Chris Coleman, Phil Parkinson et al managing your club in recent times, someone like Mowbray should be given more consideration instead of being ridiculed.

Come to think of it the question should really be not does Sunderland need Tony Mowbray but does Tony Mowbray need Sunderland? He completed his full 5-years contract at his last club - Blackburn (not many managers do that these days - indeed Sunderland had 7 permanent managers during that time). He achieved promotion from League One in the process and in his last season had a young team challenging for promotion to the Premier League.

I suspect his reservations will be thinking that Sunderland is a club that in the last twenty years have had nearly as many permanent managers and in addition several owners including the current ones who are small-time, inexperienced, inflexible, don't value their manager and haven't invested much money. At least that is as it appears to an outsider.

Believe me Tony Mowbray would be a quality appointment for Sunderland (although it pains me to say that). It would be steady progress to achieve the clubs goals ... probably not quick enough for the twitterati and most posters on here but surely solid foundations, continuity and sustainability are key ingredients Sunderland have been lacking for years.

Tony Mowbray is your man.
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Yes, I dint understand some of the posts on here. He hasn't even met the team yet and he is been ridiculed by folk on here. Let's hope he does come on here, eh.

Some of my mates arnt happy either, but like I said to them, TM is very experienced and if he is up for the fight then I'd take him everyday over shithouses like Parly, LJ or mercenaries such as AN.
 
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