johnnyat87
Winger
He lost a game mate, therefore he's shit.
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The Pep myth
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Unlucky Black Cat
Winger
Do you think his brilliance could cut the mustard at our place?
That's a fair point that they beat domestic teams but fail in Europe. But there's a strange thing.
Last season they won the league and reached the final no bother but lost to a team from the same league. In 2018 they won the league but got knocked out the champions league by a team from the same league. 2019 won the league but got knocked out the champions league by a team from the same league.
So he's dominant against teams from his own league but loses to them in European competition.
Losf 3 European ties to English teams, 3 to foreign opposition (Monaco, Lyon and Real Madrid)
mediaclee
Winger
Mansour: Pep, I gave you a billion quid and you promised me a Champions league! That’s all I asked for!
@What A Waster: *insert X amount of PL and other domestic trophies won*
Mansour: Pellegrini and Mancini already got me all of those, for an absolute fraction of the cash!
*Mansour takes Pep and @What A Waster into the consulate to never be seen again*
Man City don't struggle for goals. They create enough chances to win games. Not all shots result in goals. Same as any team.
Ciro_DiMarzio
Striker
Let's face it. It is between him and Klopp who are the best managers in world football at the minute.
Plenty managers coming through who could surpass them but at this point they are the best.
Plenty managers coming through who could surpass them but at this point they are the best.
Man City without a world class centre forward scored 5 goals against Real Madrid over two legs.
Liverpool with arguably 1 world class centre forward scored 5 goals against Villareal over two legs.
City conceded 6. Liverpool conceded 2.
Without doubt city played against a stronger opponent.
Attacking isn't the problem for Man City.
Liverpool with arguably 1 world class centre forward scored 5 goals against Villareal over two legs.
City conceded 6. Liverpool conceded 2.
Without doubt city played against a stronger opponent.
Attacking isn't the problem for Man City.
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Deleted member 41188
Guest
Why do you think that?
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Deleted member 41188
Guest
Transformed Liverpool, spending a lot less than City.
Has now got Liverpool to 3 Champions League finals, and has them in two other domestic cup finals all while challenging for the title. At Dortmund he had to compete with the powerhouse of Bayern and came out on top.
I think Pep is a great coach, but Klopp is better.
Ciro_DiMarzio
Striker
Klopp has definitely done more with less. Don't think that is even up for debate.
Who do you think could surpass them from the new breed?
Not being facetious just interested who you think has that potential
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Deleted member 51451
Guest
He got his side to another CL final?
Ciro_DiMarzio
Striker
No idea to be honest. There will be managers I haven't heard of yet who will end up being elite. I thing Ten Hags appointment is exciting. Could go tits up like Villas Boas or he could live up to the hype.
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Deleted member 51451
Guest
There’s not a manager I want to succeed more than Erik. But nah man, why make me think of AVB Ciro man
Laidback Jack
Striker
They scored less than Real despite having nearly double the chances. Unless you play tight football the games are more likely to be open (few teams do it at the top Atleti aside) it's always gunna be a case of taking chances. City didn't tonight.
Grealish puts either of his away, Foden header... there you go.
They were also naive as a team mind. When Real scored the first, they had momentum in the game and the crowd was up. City gifted them the ball straight back. They should have slowed the game right down and used a bit from the Simeone textbook
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Cant disagree with what he's done so far. Done more with less. In 2018 they reached a champions league final and arguably punching above their weight.
Since then they're challenging for all the cups or titles..Maybe not title last season when they needed a goalkeepers goal to secure champions league football.
There hasn't been that dip in a single season with a Guardiola team. The standards are set and that's where they are. His worst ever league finish is 3rd. Impeccable.
But with Klopp Liverpool are no longer the plucky underdog. With 75 million quid defenders and goalkeepers they're with the big lads. Early on his work to get them there is very good. But they're one of the big two now. Nobody else is close.
I've just realised this is becoming Messi v Ronaldo. And i think both are incredible. Guardiola anr Klopp. Messi and Ronaldo. Equally good and for different reasons.
I only got in on this thread because i thought peoole were incorrect in diminishing his achievements, didn't even mention his influence globally. But now it's became Klopp vs Guardiola and they're both great but I've got sucked in to the argument where one is great and one is shite.
So I'll bow out.
Guardioa and Klopp are the best two managers in the world.
Ciro_DiMarzio
Striker
sponge
Winger
If only you were on the bench in Madrid to advise pep.
