The one man that is 100% to blame

6inarow

Full Back
For the situation that Sunderland are currently in is Ellis Short no question. Can anybody please explain to me why our current owners get so much abuse as you would think that they are the people that put us in league 1? All of this bitterness and hatred towards them doesnt make sense to me, there is a lot of people who forget or who choose to forget, a lot of people are quick to react to the here and now rather than think who put us here in the first place. There is vicious posts and threads on here with absolute no foundation, all aimed at the wrong people and that is a matter of fact
 

Johnsafc

Striker
At least Short put money into the club and gave it a go, he was badly advised and put his trust in the wrong people. Was willing to cut his losses to get rid of us losing his billionaire status in the process (although I would have liked him to have done it a year earlier). The current fuckers look like they want to spend as little as possible to make the most as possible whilst bullshitting to us all in the present.
 
Nobody is 100%. Short, Bain, every manager going back to Moyes, the current owners, certain squad members all take a share of the blame.

However, there's nothing Short has been able to do for 18 months now, the current owners got a great deal on the best club in the league, it's upto them to sort it out.
 

6inarow

Full Back
At least Short put money into the club and gave it a go, he was badly advised and put his trust in the wrong people. Was willing to cut his losses to get rid of us losing his billionaire status in the process (although I would have liked him to have done it a year earlier). The current fuckers look like they want to spend as little as possible to make the most as possible whilst bullshitting to us all in the present.
This badly advised shit doesnt cut it with me, it was his job to put the right people in the right positions, he didnt and were in league 1, no excuse as far as im concened
 

Kevsgreat

Striker
Something's been up with the current owners since the playoff games. No big battlecry, no ticket selling push leading up to the Pompey home semi, just Methven's badly timed post playoff final comments. After that he vanished and everything was through Donald. Now Donald's vanished and we're listening to Methven.

I don't think everything this season is as big a disaster as some clearly do. Not going as well as it could be but we're not out of the picture, plenty of season to go.

I don't believe they haven't got a pot to piss in. I do think they're looking to maximise profit when it comes time for the sold signs to go up though, and that involves as little personal investment as possible.

The time we're having of it on the pitch a bit of unity behind the scenes wouldn't go amiss. Something's not right there though. It's reminiscent of Short losing interest. To go from the noises they were making last summer about how great the club and fans are, and the 100 points patter from Donald in the summer, to not turning up for talk ins or games doesn't inspire confidence it was completely genuine.
 

pwsafc

Winger
For the situation that Sunderland are currently in is Ellis Short no question. Can anybody please explain to me why our current owners get so much abuse as you would think that they are the people that put us in league 1? All of this bitterness and hatred towards them doesnt make sense to me, there is a lot of people who forget or who choose to forget, a lot of people are quick to react to the here and now rather than think who put us here in the first place. There is vicious posts and threads on here with absolute no foundation, all aimed at the wrong people and that is a matter of fact
Because some fans just want someone to blame and will never be happy , the same fans who are giving them stick will of been praising them last season when things were going well.
 

Ohnonotagain

Central Defender
For the situation that Sunderland are currently in is Ellis Short no question. Can anybody please explain to me why our current owners get so much abuse as you would think that they are the people that put us in league 1? All of this bitterness and hatred towards them doesnt make sense to me, there is a lot of people who forget or who choose to forget, a lot of people are quick to react to the here and now rather than think who put us here in the first place. There is vicious posts and threads on here with absolute no foundation, all aimed at the wrong people and that is a matter of fact
So......let me get this straight.......Mr Short who is American With no ties to the region employs a manager, Martin ONeill which this media page for a long time, myself included, was apparently guaranteed to take us to the next level.

Mr Short decides after we were all wrong to leave and pays off all our debt.

Its Mr Shorts fault.

I have it on good authority that Mr Short watches all our games live....still a fan.....god bless you.

What fucking planet are you on?
 

Frankel

Midfield
Absolute bollocks.

He paid the debt off at the start of last season. The new owners who have a clean slate have totally fucked it up.

Take a look in the difference between that change of ownership and a year after it compared to when SNQ took over from Murray and a year after that. Night and day.

Short may be responsible for us being in League One last season, but the absolute dire shite we are in now is entirely down to Donald and Methven.
 
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THExpress

Central Defender
Shorts to blame for where we are but last year could of had us back on track, wether it be Ross losing the plot on the last ten games of the season playing for draws or 1 Nils what ended in defeats or draws, or the owners for going for cheap shite instead of buying the best players in this league.
 

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