The one man that is 100% to blame



He isn't 100% to blame but I certainly haven't forgiven him the way some on here have. He sat back and watched us free fall into league one, yes he repaid some cash at the end but by then the damage was done.
I agree with your assessment. Only thing is the wording - that was a bit more than some cash
 
At least Short put money into the club and gave it a go, he was badly advised and put his trust in the wrong people. Was willing to cut his losses to get rid of us losing his billionaire status in the process (although I would have liked him to have done it a year earlier). The current fuckers look like they want to spend as little as possible to make the most as possible whilst bullshitting to us all in the present.
And you think that if we had an owner who could billions into a division 1 club would make it all right?.........you complete and utter helmet!
 
For the situation that Sunderland are currently in is Ellis Short no question. Can anybody please explain to me why our current owners get so much abuse as you would think that they are the people that put us in league 1? All of this bitterness and hatred towards them doesnt make sense to me, there is a lot of people who forget or who choose to forget, a lot of people are quick to react to the here and now rather than think who put us here in the first place. There is vicious posts and threads on here with absolute no foundation, all aimed at the wrong people and that is a matter of fact

What a load of f***ing shit
 
For the situation that Sunderland are currently in is Ellis Short no question. Can anybody please explain to me why our current owners get so much abuse as you would think that they are the people that put us in league 1? All of this bitterness and hatred towards them doesnt make sense to me, there is a lot of people who forget or who choose to forget, a lot of people are quick to react to the here and now rather than think who put us here in the first place. There is vicious posts and threads on here with absolute no foundation, all aimed at the wrong people and that is a matter of fact

Who appointed Hill and Coton?
 
It always boils down to one thing , absolutely shit decisions in the transfer market! always looking for mr experience or the big name instead of signing up and coming players
The money has been there we have spent a fortune over the years just keep picking the wrong players
 
SD and CM are chancers who've taken a punt but don't have the finance themselves to take the club forward. And it hasn't gone that well despite our trips to Wembley.
Can't blame them for getting involved initially, and to their credit they have cut costs which was needed whether we like it or not.
But they didn't put us where we are, it was all those who ripped off the football-naive Ellis Short, hard to believe such a businessman could allow it to happen.
We're a club with PL facilities and supporters (though the mood is waning) but are not going to recover under the present ownership unless significant outside investment is made.
Which itself is a bit of a problem because of financial fair play rules, only a certain % of the club's income can be spent on recruiting players.
The club's greatest asset is it's fanbase and despite the unprecedented period we've suffered, we'll be back - just a matter of time.
 
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For the situation that Sunderland are currently in is Ellis Short no question. Can anybody please explain to me why our current owners get so much abuse as you would think that they are the people that put us in league 1? All of this bitterness and hatred towards them doesnt make sense to me, there is a lot of people who forget or who choose to forget, a lot of people are quick to react to the here and now rather than think who put us here in the first place. There is vicious posts and threads on here with absolute no foundation, all aimed at the wrong people and that is a matter of fact

Your wasting your time mate... rationality has long since walked out of the door on here.
The place is populated by a frightening culture of entitlement, an expectation of computer like instant gratification, a failure to see context or cause or understand consequence.
It’s an embarrassment.
Those that go to the match and support have my respect and deserve better.... but where we are is the
Catastrophic effect of failed leadership over many years hidden by throwing insane amounts of money at it to cover it up, until the money was stopped and how deep the rot was then exposed.
Credit to the people who have took it on, I wouldn’t have sunk the cost of a weekend in Seaburn into the club let alone tens of millions and enourmous personal commitment in terms of time and effort and a load of hassle.
 
For the situation that Sunderland are currently in is Ellis Short no question. Can anybody please explain to me why our current owners get so much abuse as you would think that they are the people that put us in league 1? All of this bitterness and hatred towards them doesnt make sense to me, there is a lot of people who forget or who choose to forget, a lot of people are quick to react to the here and now rather than think who put us here in the first place. There is vicious posts and threads on here with absolute no foundation, all aimed at the wrong people and that is a matter of fact

Yet he kept us a float all season in the championship under Grayson and Coleman, then wiped the debt when he sold us to his mate.....You post is deluded, none factual and utter shite!
 
At least Short put money into the club and gave it a go, he was badly advised and put his trust in the wrong people. Was willing to cut his losses to get rid of us losing his billionaire status in the process (although I would have liked him to have done it a year earlier). The current fuckers look like they want to spend as little as possible to make the most as possible whilst bullshitting to us all in the present.

sound like a child in a sweetie shop. Uncle Ellis always bought me sweets even though it rotted my teeth and made me obese. Uncle Stuart won’t buy me sweets because he says he doesn’t have enough money.
Bad Uncle Stuart why doesn’t he just take out a payday loan.... selfish, incompetent Eastleigh supporting taking the piss cockney.
Yet he kept us a float all season in the championship under Grayson and Coleman, then wiped the debt when he sold us to his mate.....You post is deluded, none factual and utter shite!

wrong on so many levels, so much so I think your beyond hope
SD and CM are chancers who've taken a punt but don't have the finance themselves to take the club forward. And it hasn't gone that well despite our trips to Wembley.
Can't blame them for getting involved initially, and to their credit they have cut costs which was needed whether we like it or not.
But they didn't put us where we are, it was all those who ripped off the football-naive Ellis Short, hard to believe such a businessman could allow it to happen.
We're a club with PL facilities and supporters (though the mood is waning) but are not going to recover under the present ownership unless significant outside investment is made.
Which itself is a bit of a problem because of financial fair play rules, only a certain % of the club's income can be spent on recruiting players.
The club's greatest asset is it's fanbase and despite the unprecedented period we've suffered, we'll be back - just a matter of time.

so it is Shorts fault .... good post
 
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sound like a child in a sweetie shop. Uncle Ellis always bought me sweets even though it rotted my teeth and made me obese. Uncle Stuart won’t buy me sweets because he says he doesn’t have enough money.
Bad Uncle Stuart why doesn’t he just take out a payday loan.... selfish, incompetent Eastleigh supporting taking the piss cockney.


wrong on so many levels, so much so I think your beyond hope


so it is Shorts fault .... good post

You really need to put your agenda towards me to one side and look at the facts.....And also, you're just run of the mill supporter with limited info! ;)
 
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