Teams agree new Super League

HarrogateMackem said:
People don't really get it do they. Like LIV golf they just need enough big-ish teams to join to get it set up, then give it time the real big names will all fall into line.

Hope it succeeds personally. Fuck the lot of them. Will clear football for the rest of us.
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It wouldn't really though would it? The rest of football would end up being fucked by it just like the rest of our league system has been fucked by the premier league. "Here you go little leagues, have some pennies as solidarity payments while we gorge and quaff on most of the money generated by the sport."

Half the games would end up being played in the middle east or far east as well, because they'd pay for it.
 


So just to be clear, would this intended super league replace European competition and teams would still compete in their domestic leagues or would they have to leave the prem for example to join?
 
Something like this WILL happen eventually.
These ECJ judgements are spelling out to all concerned that UEFA have been over stepping their legal rights for years. The clubs, national associations, UEFA, FIFA, FIFPRO etc all know it. The two Spanish twats are simply trying to hurry it up as they’re skint in comparison to their old wealthy days and the PL clubs.
Its now a question of:
A/ Will any ESL entity be ran and owned by UEFA or by the clubs themselves ala the PL?
B/ Will any ESL entity clubs still compete in their domestic leagues?

Remember UEFA were on the verge of organising an Atlantic League years ago to help the bigger clubs in Western Europe’s smaller nations attempt to keep up with the clubs of the big five leagues. IE Benfica, Porto, Ajax, Feyenoord, Anderlecht, Bruges, Celtic, Rangers, Stockholm etc. Then the big clubs of Eastern and Central Europe, Balkans, Russia etc Galatassaray, Red Star Belgrade, the Moscow four, St Petersburg, Panathaniakos, Dinamo Bucharest, Dinamo Kiev etc etc started wanted something similar for ower that way so UEFA stuck it all on the back burner……….which has led us in part to this situation.

UEFA could take away a lot of the ESLs bargaining power by resurecting these nfl style regional leagues feeding into a Super Bowl type system final alongside both the CL and the clubs national leagues thus allowing Benfica, Galatasaray, PSV, Olympiakos etc to mix it with the big boys of the big five and get some glory/cash anarl.

Next seasons CL is already to be ran on a Swiss system to give the weaker clubs more guaranteed games.

Somethings gonna happen and the more proactive UEFA are the less disruptive it’ll be for all.
 
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Sounds like it's on it's last legs.

www.politico.eu

France shoots to kill the football Super League, once and for all

Emmanuel Macron’s government pushes the EU to regulate the controversial competition out of existence.
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France has rallied European Union support for a joint statement from member countries, which would look to ensure a “link between annual performance in domestic competitions and all European competitions,” according to a draft seen by POLITICO. The statement has been signed by all EU members apart from Spain.
French President Emmanuel Macron's government is now urging the European Commission to draft legislation that solidifies that link. The language connecting domestic performance and international qualification in the French memo goes further than any previous EU statements, which have never before targeted the Super League so explicitly.
Put simply, it would mean: UEFA's Champions League, in; A22's Super League, out.
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riffraff said:
Something like this WILL happen eventually.
These ECJ judgements are spelling out to all concerned that UEFA have been over stepping their legal rights for years. The clubs, national associations, UEFA, FIFA, FIFPRO etc all know it. The two Spanish twats are simply trying to hurry it up as they’re skint in comparison to their old wealthy days and the PL clubs.
Its now a question of:
A/ Will any ESL entity be ran and owned by UEFA or by the clubs themselves ala the PL?
B/ Will any ESL entity clubs still compete in their domestic leagues?

Remember UEFA were on the verge of organising an Atlantic League years ago to help the bigger clubs in Western Europe’s smaller nations attempt to keep up with the clubs of the big five leagues. IE Benfica, Porto, Ajax, Feyenoord, Anderlecht, Bruges, Celtic, Rangers, Stockholm etc. Then the big clubs of Eastern and Central Europe, Balkans, Russia etc Galatassaray, Red Star Belgrade, the Moscow four, St Petersburg, Panathaniakos, Dinamo Bucharest, Dinamo Kiev etc etc started wanted something similar for ower that way so UEFA stuck it all on the back burner……….which has led us in part to this situation.

UEFA could take away a lot of the ESLs bargaining power by resurecting these nfl style regional leagues feeding into a Super Bowl type system final alongside both the CL and the clubs national leagues thus allowing Benfica, Galatasaray, PSV, Olympiakos etc to mix it with the big boys of the big five and get some glory/cash anarl.

Next seasons CL is already to be ran on a Swiss system to give the weaker clubs more guaranteed games.

Somethings gonna happen and the more proactive UEFA are the less disruptive it’ll be for all.
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What tosh. Like every sporting body, UEFA can make their own rules for their competitions, which includes who can and can’t enter. If UEFA wanted to only allow clubs beginning with the letter A to enter the Champions League then there is nothing legally to stop them from doing it. The excluded clubs would of course join up with someone else and do their own thing, but legally they couldn’t force UEFA to change their entry rules. A stand-alone European Super League will never happen because - whatever some of the owners may think - the hardcore supporters from each team will refuse to allow it as they prefer to play their local rivals than international teams. But However, almost certainly the CL will change in the coming years to a broader midweek league structure whilst the clubs who qualify for it each season will stop playing in their national cup competitions to free up the extra midweeks to play the additional European games.
 
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Kent Boy 2 said:
What tosh. Like every sporting body, UEFA can make their own rules for their competitions, which includes who can and can’t enter. If UEFA wanted to only allow clubs beginning with the letter A to enter the Champions League then there is nothing legally to stop them from doing it. The excluded clubs would of course join up with someone else and do their own thing, but legally they couldn’t force UEFA to change their entry rules. A stand-alone European Super League will never happen because - whatever some of the owners may think - the hardcore supporters from each team will refuse to allow it as they prefer to play their local rivals than international teams. But However, almost certainly the CL will change in the coming years to a broader midweek league structure whilst the clubs who qualify for it each season will stop playing in their national cup competitions to free up the extra midweeks to play the additional European games.
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:lol:
 
Why don’t they just do a super league every other year during the summer if it’s that important to them!

Wouldn’t surprise me if Newcastle try and jump in on it before any other English clubs to get there foot in the door!
 
Kent Boy 2 said:
What tosh. Like every sporting body, UEFA can make their own rules for their competitions, which includes who can and can’t enter. If UEFA wanted to only allow clubs beginning with the letter A to enter the Champions League then there is nothing legally to stop them from doing it.
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UEFA rules don’t allow cross border tournaments without their approval. Which in the eyes of the ECJ and the EC is against EC trade laws. The ESL cash has been funding an ECJ case by a Luxembourg club who claim only being allowed to compete in the Luxembourg League is a “restraint of trade”. The verdicts due soon and UEFA have all but admitted they’ll lose meaning their arguments are being picked off one by one and their position weakened.
Only admitting clubs beginning with A would suffer the same result in court……..but you already know all this.

It’ll all eventually happen under UEFAs umbrella with the clubs both owning it and pocketing the cash while UEFA receive an admin fee.
 
riffraff said:
UEFA rules don’t allow cross border tournaments without their approval. Which in the eyes of the ECJ and the EC is against EC trade laws. The ESL cash has been funding an ECJ case by a Luxembourg club who claim only being allowed to compete in the Luxembourg League is a “restraint of trade”. The verdicts due soon and UEFA have all but admitted they’ll lose meaning their arguments are being picked off one by one and their position weakened.
Only admitting clubs beginning with A would suffer the same result in court……..but you already know all this.

It’ll all eventually happen under UEFAs umbrella with the clubs both owning it and pocketing the cash while UEFA receive an admin fee.
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This is the important bit and the bit that is being challenged - “UEFA rules don’t allow cross border tournaments without their approval.” This is a clear restraint of trade and is not lawful under EU law. This will get revoked, which will allow a SL to start if there is appetite and teams are prepared to face the consequences. However, UEFA will always have the right to admit which teams it wants and exclude those teams it doesn’t want from their own competitions - I assume you know this? Every competition in every sport is run by a governing body who puts their own rules in place to decide who they want and who they don’t want to compete in it. There will never be a case brought against UEFA for choosing who it allows into its own competitions. UEFA can easily say to the National FA’s that it will exclude all of their member clubs from UEFA competitions and exclude their national team from European Championships (and representing UEFA at World Cups) if any of their members joins a break away SL. There is nothing that the courts could do to stop that. Just like there was nothing the courts could do to stop UEFA excluding English clubs from competing in their competitions in the late 90’s, or Russian teams at the moment.
 

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