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Takeover News/Rumours - Part 42

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one armed boxer said:
The irony is even this interview is cloak and daggers. He uses the complexity as an excuse, whilst saying it’s the biggest he’s dealt with - exactly Jim, it’s complex because you lot are amateurs and don’t know what you’re doing. Likewise he mentions it’s complex because of the ‘various’ loans - yet we’ve been told the only loan is fpp (not various) and if he means the loan Donald has taken from the club then that’s not complicated - just pay it back you little shit.

Rodwell is just Donald’s puppet and anyone that believes otherwise needs to have a rethink (hi Bob).
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“Various loans”

Dropped yasels right in it there jim
If it is with the efl would they even let us take the extra bailout money if we sre in takes about a takeover?
 
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6inarow said:
Rodwell mentioned in his statement regarding the takeover...'its not all particularly cloaks and daggers'......well sorry Jim but that has been the problem of the last 12+ months, that's exactly what it has been between SD, the club and the fans. Thats been the fundamental problem with everything Sunderland..Cloaks, daggers and lies
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Rodwell sounds like more of a bellend every time he talks.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
Bear in mind that until someone else arrives, decisions can only be made by the board of Sunderland, although they could be acting in response to "suggestions from consultants". And that Juan Sartori is a member of that board.
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Fucks sake man Grumps, you were saying with great confidence that there was no way Donald and Methven were anywhere near the recent appointment?
 
Few pages since this morning.

Think got to just wait and hope but I certainly will not be taking notice of Rodwell , Donald or salmon strides or any ITKs and especially ones who claim it's coming from gentleman Jim himself.

If Kyril don't trust them who can blame him.
 
The Jarra Wanderer said:
Fucks sake man Grumps, you were saying with great confidence that there was no way Donald and Methven were anywhere near the recent appointment?
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Making the appointment does not equal making the decision. If a firm of management consultants tells a company the x,y,z they are, in effect, making a decision. But that can only be implemented by the board of the company. The company is simply rubberstamping the external advice. It's about observing the underlying niceties, not the realities. Form over substance.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
Making the appointment does not equal making the decision. If a firm of management consultants tells a company the x,y,z they are, in effect, making a decision. But that can only be implemented by the board of the company. The company is simply rubberstamping the external advice. It's about observing the underlying niceties, not the realities. Form over substance.
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What you could have said was “I called that one wrong”
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
Making the appointment does not equal making the decision. If a firm of management consultants tells a company the x,y,z they are, in effect, making a decision. But that can only be implemented by the board of the company. The company is simply rubberstamping the external advice. It's about observing the underlying niceties, not the realities. Form over substance.
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with all due respect you said that Donald and his other clowns were nowhere near the decision making. It seems you are wide of the mark, appointing Speekman and Johnson is obviously a SD decision as no one else can make these decisions now, and the sacking of Cookey and probably a few others have paid for it. There is no way Kyril has had any input they havent even agreed a deal yet. Everything anyone has said has been wrong, who gives you your info?
Grimes said:
Donald seems to be holding all the cards and making all the decisions. Have the ITKs been deliberately fed misinformation? 🤔
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cos he owns the circus no one else does, and that wont change it seems
 
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Grumpy Old Man said:
Making the appointment does not equal making the decision. If a firm of management consultants tells a company the x,y,z they are, in effect, making a decision. But that can only be implemented by the board of the company. The company is simply rubberstamping the external advice. It's about observing the underlying niceties, not the realities. Form over substance.
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:lol::lol::lol:
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
Making the appointment does not equal making the decision. If a firm of management consultants tells a company the x,y,z they are, in effect, making a decision. But that can only be implemented by the board of the company. The company is simply rubberstamping the external advice. It's about observing the underlying niceties, not the realities. Form over substance.
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Someone said the club have to say it was the current board’s decision otherwise Parkinson could take them to court - is that plausible?
 
This new structure is not the doing of Donald. He has to be involved as majority shareholder, but he doesn't have the cash to fund it. I'm not itk but it is obvious that this is new ideas which will be backed, by new money. How can anybody actually think that Donald has decided to do all this himself?
 
Thatheaderman said:
Few pages since this morning.

Think got to just wait and hope but I certainly will not be taking notice of Rodwell , Donald or salmon strides or any ITKs and especially ones who claim it's coming from gentleman Jim himself.

If Kyril don't trust them who can blame him.
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Not true. Supporter groups should be up in arms and acting against the owners. We're in worst state in over 140 years but they seem happy to let things slide. Next it'll be oh can't protest becasue of the transfer window. Then it'll be the season run in. Then we start again, possinly in league one AGAIN!
 
The Cabbage said:
Has the club been broadly ‘doing the right things’ recently in terms of structure and appointments? Yes.

Do I believe that the Donald regime has either the intelligence or the funds to be the driving force behind such appointments? Not in the slightest.

Will i relax until this incompetent dope and his awful chums are nowhere near decision-making at this club? Not a f***ing chance.

So much conflicting information about - both in what people are saying and what is actually happening. I’m gonna refuse to get too positive or too negative until we’ve got something really concrete. I’d suggest everyone else does the same for now.
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Agree with this. Even if Donald has signed off on the recent appointments, they're being driven by people undoing his bad work in the past.

I'm the same on the takeover. I still believe something is going on of some description, but I'm not sure what it is, and quite clearly KLD may not have made his mind up what he even wants, so let's just see.
darius said:
This new structure is not the doing of Donald. He has to be involved as majority shareholder, but he doesn't have the cash to fund it. I'm not itk but it is obvious that this is new ideas which will be backed, by new money. How can anybody actually think that Donald has decided to do all this himself?
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Because he had to, tbf. I can believe he at least felt he needed to make a change.

The biggest reason for Speakman and Johnson to join us is the possibility of a takeover of some description. I don't think they're out of budget though, they're just probably at the budget that Donald should have committed this time last year.
 
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