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Sunderland railway station.

Forty said:
The logical thing would have been to develop Monkwearmouth, all the land is available on the sheepfolds side could have created an interchange extend the platforms into St Peters, as the lifts are there for disabled access.
New Bridge about to be built giving better access into the town.
But lets just keep throwing money at the hole in the ground.
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Sunderland doesn't do that. Path of least resistance is followed, always.
PinzaC55 said:
The main problem with the station is the fact that the space above it is covered in shops which means whatever the entrances look like, the platform area is always going to look like an underground car park. If they ever bit the bullet and fucked the shops off they could build a modern overall glazed roof and it would look great. As I probably have mentioned here before, when it was rebuilt for the Metro it was originally intended to make it 4 separate platforms as it used to be but they went for cheapness and ruined it. It can never be like it was but every freaking time they rebuild it they try to save money and make it worse.
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Plenty of underground stations in London look more than decent. It's all about what they do with the space they have. Likely what they will do will be the cheapest option
 
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FalkirkMackem said:
Sunderland doesn't do that. Path of least resistance is followed, always.


Plenty of underground stations in London look more than decent. It's all about what they do with the space they have. Likely what they will do will be the cheapest option
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It depends what kind of underground station you mean ? The London Underground doesn't have diesels which Sunderland does and so you not only have fumes, you need fume extraction systems. The reason why the station used to have a high roof wasn't just look pretty, it was to disperse the smoke and steam.
 
Forty said:
Due to Tory Austerity, the Libraries shut now, they cant use the reading rooms to get warm and save on Gas & electric this winter.
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Why do you suppose the British people consistently reject Labour in elections if the Tories are so evil ? At the last election it was a clear choice between Boris Johnson and Socialism and Labour received their most crushing defeat since 1935. Why is that ?
 
PinzaC55 said:
Why do you suppose the British people consistently reject Labour in elections if the Tories are so evil ? At the last election it was a clear choice between Boris Johnson and Socialism and Labour received their most crushing defeat since 1935. Why is that ?
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Simple. There are more of them down in the south of the this country where the climate is softer (as they are), plus the general flow has always been that out of work people are forced to go south to at least pick up some crappy job to keep their families alive.
Wearside Wanderer II said:
The country is awash with selfish thick bastards.
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Well said.
 
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PinzaC55 said:
Why do you suppose the British people consistently reject Labour in elections if the Tories are so evil ? At the last election it was a clear choice between Boris Johnson and Socialism and Labour received their most crushing defeat since 1935. Why is that ?
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People really looked at it in binary terms of the party leaders than the actual party policy. It’s true the media did a hatchet job on Corbyn using terms you mentioned there such as: communist, socialist, terrorist sympathier etc. Although I agree corbyn was too divisive and he scared too many of the centre ground swing voters, it was a reflection of the Labour policy at the time. People felt more at ease voting for the political buffoon Boris Johnson than Corbyn. Everyone knew Boris Johnson was out of his depth morally and politically, but as bad as it’s turned out to be, his affable, genial character was more palatable than Jeremy Corbyn. Labour’s main problem is they’d abandoned centrist policies. I think things are different now, Starmer’s Labour is more politically aligned with “new Labour “ of the 90s………and let’s face it, the tories have been a complete disaster
 
citybythesea said:
People really looked at it in binary terms of the party leaders than the actual party policy. It’s true the media did a hatchet job on Corbyn using terms you mentioned there such as: communist, socialist, terrorist sympathier etc. Although I agree corbyn was too divisive and he scared too many of the centre ground swing voters, it was a reflection of the Labour policy at the time. People felt more at ease voting for the political buffoon Boris Johnson than Corbyn. Everyone knew Boris Johnson was out of his depth morally and politically, but as bad as it’s turned out to be, his affable, genial character was more palatable than Jeremy Corbyn. Labour’s main problem is they’d abandoned centrist policies. I think things are different now, Starmer’s Labour is more politically aligned with “new Labour “ of the 90s………and let’s face it, the tories have been a complete disaster
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That just about sums it up. The good news for the Tories is that they've taken the opportunity to shovel shed loads of public money to their mates and supporters. Not to mention knighthoods and seats in the House of Lords. What a shame tens of thousands of old folk died needlessly.
 
citybythesea said:
People really looked at it in binary terms of the party leaders than the actual party policy. It’s true the media did a hatchet job on Corbyn using terms you mentioned there such as: communist, socialist, terrorist sympathier etc. Although I agree corbyn was too divisive and he scared too many of the centre ground swing voters, it was a reflection of the Labour policy at the time. People felt more at ease voting for the political buffoon Boris Johnson than Corbyn. Everyone knew Boris Johnson was out of his depth morally and politically, but as bad as it’s turned out to be, his affable, genial character was more palatable than Jeremy Corbyn. Labour’s main problem is they’d abandoned centrist policies. I think things are different now, Starmer’s Labour is more politically aligned with “new Labour “ of the 90s………and let’s face it, the tories have been a complete disaste
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I didn't mention Corbyn at all. I mentioned Socialism because the Labour manifesto was Socialist. Why have you constructed a strawman argument around things I didn't say ?
 
You should take this to the politics forum. This threads for the railway development, no one's interested in reading political point scoring
 
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PinzaC55 said:
Why do you suppose the British people consistently reject Labour in elections if the Tories are so evil ? At the last election it was a clear choice between Boris Johnson and Socialism and Labour received their most crushing defeat since 1935. Why is that ?
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Corbyn was unelectable, yet they still kept him as leader after the defeat by May.
 
70YearsOfHurt said:
Not much. It needs a rebuild, not just the crappy Station but the track layouts, but the whole layout to Park Lane. . . . Which should be the station anyway, with "Sunderland Central" as a Metro stop.

Bugger all
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Thought this for years - the current station 'Sunderland Central' should be a metro stop only and the north end a proper railway station. The monkwearmouth museum should be the railway station, access from Sheepfolds with car parking and proper taxi stands. With a new footbridge access a lot better but will never happen. For years good money after bad on the current one. Underground stations can be amazing but all the platform apace is taken up by offices and passengers forced out to the platform edge. Other than the bit bottom if stairs and the waiting room very claustrophobic. At least we won't have the smell of burger King anymore. Heard a few people call the station, burger Kings basement and they were right,
 
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