Sgt Blackman

[HABA87]

good luck Al

Does he get on here?

 

[pavarotti1980]

Does he get on here?

No i just think he reads it from his prison cell for moral support!

 

[HABA87]

given that it was a miltary court and the CPS do not have any involvement with military cases, then you are incorrect in saying they should look at the evidence as its nowt to do with them at all!

Ignoring that, didn't they pull up some new evidence so he could take the manslaughter charge? Evidence that wasn't originally available?

 

[pavarotti1980]

Ignoring that, didn't they pull up some new evidence so he could take the manslaughter charge? Evidence that wasn't originally available?

It was to do with the Judge in initial Court Martial not directing the jury that they could accept the lesser charge if they didnt think that it fitted murder as well as psychiatric evidence

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...dge-mishandled-trial-jailed-marine-alexander/

 

[Epping]

given that it was a miltary court and the CPS do not have any involvement with military cases, then you are incorrect in saying they should look at the evidence as its nowt to do with them at all!

wasn't the Blackman case a civil court case though . even though the act was performed while serving...

 

[pavarotti1980]

wasn't the Blackman case a civil court case though . even though the act was performed while serving...

Initial one was Court Martial but the appeal goes through Royal Courts of Justice as a seperate division as Court Martial Appeal Court. After it went to CCRC not sure whereabouts it is heard

 

[superflex]

Bringing nothing to this debate but was reading this thread then when having dinner heard this quote. Thought I'd share.

Einstein: "It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder."

 

[Scotty]

Bringing nothing to this debate but was reading this thread then when having dinner heard this quote. Thought I'd share.

Einstein: "It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder."

Einstein was a pacifist, so no surprise he said that

 

[haway]

Bringing nothing to this debate but was reading this thread then when having dinner heard this quote. Thought I'd share.

Einstein: "It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder."

Have to say I agree. Dunno quite why people think if the state says you kill someone = a hero, brave, honourable... if you decide to kill someone = murderer, coward, criminal etc.

I really think taking another person's life is only justifiable from self defence when reasonable to do so.

 

[greedminds]

out in two weeks

great news

 

[HABA87]

Hopefully he gets the support he needs when he's free.

 

[Tadger]

Have to say I agree. Dunno quite why people think if the state says you kill someone = a hero, brave, honourable... if you decide to kill someone = murderer, coward, criminal etc.

I really think taking another person's life is only justifiable from self defence when reasonable to do so.

It's far too a simplistic way to look at it because conflict occurs for such a variety of reasons.

Two armed men engaged in combat with one another understand the situation and the risk involved.

 

[TicoTorres]

Bonkers decision. Basically, the geneva convention doesn't apply to us. We can do what we want and then complain when the Taliban do nasty things to us.

 

[BIG BAZ]

out in two weeks

great news

This

 

[conrad]

Bonkers decision. Basically, the geneva convention doesn't apply to us. We can do what we want and then complain when the Taliban do nasty things to us.

Sounds canny to me

 

[pavarotti1980]

out in two weeks

great news

So on license for another 3-4 years then.

 

[lurker]

Bonkers decision. Basically, the geneva convention doesn't apply to us. We can do what we want and then complain when the Taliban do nasty things to us.

The man Blackman killed was not a soldier so the Geneva convention does not apply

They do a lot worse to us when they capture us alive

 

[Geronimo]

“Obviously this doesn’t go anywhere, fellas. I just broke the Geneva Convention.”

The lesson here is, turn your camera off if you're going to break the Geneva Convention.

Bloke was an idiot

 

[southwestsafc]

Great news good to hear!

 

[Tadger]

Bonkers decision. Basically, the geneva convention doesn't apply to us. We can do what we want and then complain when the Taliban do nasty things to us.

Factors such as his mental state at the time have obviously been taken into consideration, rightly so IMO.

I was very much in the minority when this case first came to light as I agreed that he'd broken the law and needed to be punished otherwise how can we take the moral high ground over the enemy, which flew in face of those who said he should be given a medal etc.

That said, I don't think we can truly appreciate the stresses that war can put upon a person and how people can end up reacting in the heat of the moment. I'm still firmly of the opinion that he had to brought to account for this especially as the evidence was there and to ignore it would have made a mockery of our armed forces. I firmly believe our armed forces are some of the best in the world and I would want those high standards to be maintained.