Selling the soul of your club to be successful

[Hawyatt Earp]

Sometimes I wonder if fans of teams like man city and PSG even enjoy it that much after awhile. It must be strange to be expected to win every single match.

I can imagine it's fun to watch some of the best players in the world on your team but winning because you spend more than everyone else has to dampen the excitement a little bit.

Exactly, as much fun as it can appear from the outside, expectations rise astronomically and people who were previously annoyed at the lack of success are annoyed they’ve not won a match 5-0 instead of 2-0. If we got in the Champions league there’d still be people on here complaining we didn’t win the FA Cup

An example of this is us this season, an obviously more successful season than last year but if we’re all honest, those play offs were incredible and whilst we’ve produced some brilliant moments this season, we’re still mid-table and instead of enjoying the stability for once, we’re all “what could have been” with Stewart and strikers etc. it’s the nature of the thing

 

[Far Tibetan Mountain]

I remember getting promoted, stuffed by Arsenal in our first game and thinking, here we f***ing go back down.

Chelsea?

 

[AKickUpTheBerntHaas]

Football’s finished with morality but that doesn’t mean I’d shrug my shoulders and just get on with things. I think it could change how I support the club but hopefully we don’t have to find that out anytime soon.

 

[MONTYMCPHAIL]

I'll never stop going and will always get my SC and go to a few aways, but my passion for football in general (not SAFC) is definitely not what it was in the 80s & 90s mainly due to the amount of money in the game, foreign ownership, VAR, refereeing decisions, XG, field tilt, TV dictatorship. Aye I'm probably a dinosaur

 

[Big Toe]

Rather than a big takeover, I’d like us to be offered the opportunity to invest in the club through a share purchase.

 

[Lovemore]

Most of our time spent in the premier league was based around the goal of staying in the league. It was dire football barring the odd exciting finish as we scrambled to stay up. The money wasted in just achieving that was ridiculous and would require even more to do so now (unless this model of ours ultimately pays dividends). It's enjoyable seeing a young side playing good football, so much different to the old PL days. No guarantee of any success even with mega money. One day the football TV boom will go tits up. A well run big club should capitalize in that scenario. That might be decades away of course!

I’ve heard people say the money from tv will burst since 1992. I’m not sure it will ever burst- they’ll find other ways to monetise if it does, would be my guess.

 

[ErichZann]

Said it before if the Saudis bought us we'd need to extend the stadium.

 

[Mboma]

Rarely watch a Premiership game in the house and I'll only take a passing interest if a games on in the pub. Watched the England game last night and it was mentioned that West Ham had paid over 35 million for one of the Itailian subs who'd only scored 8 goals. Some obscene money getting thrown around in that league man.

I've enjoyed this season because we've really competed and held our own. I'm not sure I'm ready for us to go back to being cannon fodder just yet. Any of those 3 out of the top 6 going up this season are going to get murdered tbh.

 

[Deleted member 52509]

This a million times over I love going to the match again, I love feel part of something. I love the journey we are on.
sometimes in ya life you’ve just got to say no thats not what I stand for.

Also there seems a good feel around the place ( maybe that’s because there’s no prospect of relegation !) all I sit near /with are renewing as are my “ kids “ who are in different parts of stadium -this in the current climate shows most seem ok with the progress ?

 

[Nicky pies]

Unpopular view but NFL draft system that Boehly got laughed at for would only help a club like us, I’d prefer that to been bought as a vehicle for sport washing as well. No way it would happen though as all European leagues would have to do it for it to work.

 

[Coeus]

No, absolutely not, I'd find my club becoming a marketing arm for a murderous regime hideous. Every win having an asterisk next to it would get tiresome quickly.

The city fans I spoke to prior to our cup final all said it had been spoilt, If that was just a case of human nature and football was better in the olden days, I don't know, but I can well imagine there is a point where your club, stops becoming your club anymore.

 

[DEfromBC]

Sometimes I wonder if fans of teams like man city and PSG even enjoy it that much after awhile. It must be strange to be expected to win every single match.

I can imagine it's fun to watch some of the best players in the world on your team but winning because you spend more than everyone else has to dampen the excitement a little bit.

Of course they enjoy it. Champions League days out, Wembley on a regular basis. What's not to enjoy

 

[CissesUnderpants9]

Ideally I'd prefer us not to be owned by murderers or owt like that, but aye give us all the money and all the trophies.

People love using buzz phrases like 'sold your soul' but they're completely meaningless and everyone knows it whether you admit it or not. If we were all down Wembley after winning the FA Cup final you'd be getting pissed, having one of the best weekends of your life and it'd never even enter your thoughts about who owned the club and what they did for money.

Just see everyone coming up with all sorts of nonsense reasons why you're not jealous - Man City fans are now plastic (they aren't), Man City fans were quiet and weren't bothered when they beat us in the League Cup (just actively not true) and Man City fans now only feel relief rather than happiness (aye the turn around on the final day of the season last year or the Aguero goal to win the league looked like it gave them no joy at all), we all want to win trophies and are jealous of those who do. There's nothing wrong with admitting that.

This 100% it wouldn’t matter to me how the club got the money, as long as we did, this idea of being cleaner than white snow, is just daft the truth is on our return to the premer league at some point the current owners have a choice to make, hands in pockets time or sell to someone who will, and if I remember correctly during the winter break wasn’t Mr Juan Sartori pictured in Saudi, it maybe nothing but it makes you wonder why the club really went to Dubai.

 

[dom]

Chelsea?

Indeed, my memory is shot

 

[Coeus]

Of course they enjoy it. Champions League days out, Wembley on a regular basis. What's not to enjoy

Those I spoke to at the final (City fans) said they felt deflated and did it out of routine, it was a league cup final and without being disrespectful, they didn't care about the game, it held no importance. As if it had been ruined.

 

[Keawyeds]

Do you wish the Saudis would buy

I'd sooner see us fold.

 

[Get Into Em]

I do feel sympathy for many long time supporters of Man City and nufc as deep down I think a lot of them hate ehat had happened to their clubs

You're lying to yourself if you believe that. Do you actually think that after 6 Premier League titles, 2 FA Cups, 6 League Cups, and a Champions League Final that there are many Man City fans that hate what has happened?

There might be a very small minority, but the vast vast majority of football fans would have City's success in a heartbeat, and NUFC have probably just sold their soul alongside City for it. The fans won't care though.

 

[Mackemansj1]

Will be shite if that ever happens. It's the games against Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea etc that people want to see, not a run of the mill game v Fulham.

No real achievement in winning anything when the best teams in the Country aren't even there.

It'll kill the game and could see the end of football as we know it.
Having had a few crazy health scares the past two years (cancer, heart attack) fuck it give me the chance of seeing my team challenge for something or hear the champions League music play at the sol. Life's too short and there's mlf that have come and gone having seen us do nowt. It's ganna be shite if I go to the SMB in the sky having the highlight of my supporting days be those few seasons under reidy. It's why I'm a little jealous of the mags they'll have an exciting few years ahead while we will be sticking to the model hoping it gets us into the premier League to tread water.

 

[CissesUnderpants9]

It'll kill the game and could see the end of football as we know it.
Having had a few crazy health scares the past two years (cancer, heart attack) fuck it give me the chance of seeing my team challenge for something or hear the champions League music play at the sol. Life's too short and there's mlf that have come and gone having seen us do nowt. It's ganna be shite if I go to the SMB in the sky having the highlight of my supporting days be those few seasons under reidy. It's why I'm a little jealous of the mags they'll have an exciting few years ahead while we will be sticking to the model hoping it gets us into the premier League to tread water.

Exactly live the best way and in the moment.

 

[Coeus]

Exactly live the best way and in the moment.

I'm not sure "fuck it, live for now" is the the best way to go about things. Entirely understandable under circumstances, but still, certainly not for me.