Self build gaming PC advice



Scotty said:
does seem decent (especially if it could be bought with the extra student discount they talk about)

BUT - with the usual caveats - theres no details of the mobo they use or the PSU in the specs on the lenovo website

which could be

a; proprietary
b: junk
c: both
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Iirc, the lenovo Legion stuff gets pretty good reviews generally.
 
Scotty said:
does seem decent (especially if it could be bought with the extra student discount they talk about)

BUT - with the usual caveats - theres no details of the mobo they use or the PSU in the specs on the lenovo website

which could be

a; proprietary
b: junk
c: both
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Lenovo is a decent enough brand. I doubt they would spec it so the psu didn’t meet the needs.

Again the mb will be fine. It’s ££ vs spec and for that price the average gamer won’t notice.
 
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Seems a canny price
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That price is canny. £300 more than the system I built without a GPU and that GPU is more than £300.

What is a little odd, is putting a 5600G in it. That has a built in GPU/APU, and is a good choice for being usable now and putting in a GPU later. If you are putting in a GPU from the start, it would be better to go with the higher spec 5600X, which is only about £40 more.
 
DaveH said:
That price is canny. £300 more than the system I built without a GPU and that GPU is more than £300.

What is a little odd, is putting a 5600G in it. That has a built in GPU/APU, and is a good choice for being usable now and putting in a GPU later. If you are putting in a GPU from the start, it would be better to go with the higher spec 5600X, which is only about £40 more.
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Supply chain for parts is all over the place so may have gene only chip they could get in bulk at the time. Or it was best performance for £ at the time. For the budget they have
 
DaveH said:
That price is canny. £300 more than the system I built without a GPU and that GPU is more than £300.

What is a little odd, is putting a 5600G in it. That has a built in GPU/APU, and is a good choice for being usable now and putting in a GPU later. If you are putting in a GPU from the start, it would be better to go with the higher spec 5600X, which is only about £40 more.
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The apus are often barely different in price to the cpu only versions.
Probably just got a good price on a boat load of them
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Wow.
The difference in RDR2 between low settings at 1080p on my laptop, and high settings at 1440p is brilliant. Its like a totally different game.
I can get about 85fps too if I wanted, but I've put vsync on (screen is 60Hz), and the GPU isn't going over 65% so the fans aren't even kicking in.
 
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Laptop just gone, £450 towards the £950 I spent on the new desktop. Not bad really. £500 to upgrade by a huge amount. If graphics cards even plummet in price, I can always upgrade to a 3080, or a 4070 in 2 years time too, and could stick an i7 13th gen in it - so this build should last at least 5 years, maybe even 7 or 8.
 
WHO WAS PHONE said:
Got a PC specialist desktop last year, if I buy 2x8gb memory can I switch them out and dedicate more memory to the graphics?
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What graphics card has it got? An integrated one or a seprate card completely?

Basically if its integrated into the cpu/motherboard then it will be using your system RAM, so if your system has 8GB the graphics could be using half of that leaving less available for Windows to use. Adding more RAM would almost certainly improve performance in this situation.

If its a separate card then it will have its own ram and you Windows will still have 8GB to use. Adding more RAM in this situation wouldn't necessarily make any difference unless you are using games or programs that exceed 8GB.


Hope this helps
 
bennett83 said:
What graphics card has it got? An integrated one or a seprate card completely?

Basically if its integrated into the cpu/motherboard then it will be using your system RAM, so if your system has 8GB the graphics could be using half of that leaving less available for Windows to use. Adding more RAM would almost certainly improve performance in this situation.

If its a separate card then it will have its own ram and you Windows will still have 8GB to use. Adding more RAM in this situation wouldn't necessarily make any difference unless you are using games or programs that exceed 8GB.


Hope this helps
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It's separate, a lot of games say I can run them on recommended but the performance isn't great, so figured bumping up to 16 should do the trick as my processors and gfx card always meet the requirements. As you say if I can use all of that 8 then surely this should solve the issue? I've bought 2 8gb anyway so I'll soon find out!
 
WHO WAS PHONE said:
It's separate, a lot of games say I can run them on recommended but the performance isn't great, so figured bumping up to 16 should do the trick as my processors and gfx card always meet the requirements. As you say if I can use all of that 8 then surely this should solve the issue? I've bought 2 8gb anyway so I'll soon find out!
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In that case you're probably maxing the RAM and adding more will help.
 
WHO WAS PHONE said:
It's separate, a lot of games say I can run them on recommended but the performance isn't great, so figured bumping up to 16 should do the trick as my processors and gfx card always meet the requirements. As you say if I can use all of that 8 then surely this should solve the issue? I've bought 2 8gb anyway so I'll soon find out!
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Bear in mine "system requirements" will mean "Can run the game". Not "Can run the game well".

What specs are the machine you bought?
Upgrading RAM won't hurt, but its unlikely to make a massive difference - hopefully you bought faster RAM with better latency than the stuff you're replacing?
 
PTR said:
Bear in mine "system requirements" will mean "Can run the game". Not "Can run the game well".

What specs are the machine you bought?
Upgrading RAM won't hurt, but its unlikely to make a massive difference - hopefully you bought faster RAM with better latency than the stuff you're replacing?
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I don't mean the the minimum requirements, I meant the recommended requirements. Yeah got faster RAM, the difference is thankfully hugely noticeable, Cyberpunk runs like a dream on high everything now and Mafia looks supoib!
 
Is this any good for a starter gaming pc? Only £500

specifications:

CPU: Ryzen 3 2200g 4 cores 3.5ghz base clock.

RAM: 2X8GBS OF XPG 2666MHZ RAM totalling 16 gbs.

graphics card: GTX 1650 4GB card basically the 1050 ti on steroids.

motherboard: ASUS PRIME A320M-K plenty of multi media ports and usb ports.

storage: 1x 1tb hard drive for mass game storage.

power supply: FiercePc 450 watt non-modular
 
chunksafc said:
Is this any good for a starter gaming pc? Only £500

specifications:

CPU: Ryzen 3 2200g 4 cores 3.5ghz base clock.

RAM: 2X8GBS OF XPG 2666MHZ RAM totalling 16 gbs.

graphics card: GTX 1650 4GB card basically the 1050 ti on steroids.

motherboard: ASUS PRIME A320M-K plenty of multi media ports and usb ports.

storage: 1x 1tb hard drive for mass game storage.

power supply: FiercePc 450 watt non-modular
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Its older kit, but its fairly well matched and will play games on low/medium settings.

Graphic card prices seem to be crashing back towards MRSP, so if you can hang on, things might get better soon. AMD just released their AM4 run out budget options too, and they might be great VFM.
 
PTR said:
Its older kit, but its fairly well matched and will play games on low/medium settings.

Graphic card prices seem to be crashing back towards MRSP, so if you can hang on, things might get better soon. AMD just released their AM4 run out budget options too, and they might be great VFM.
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So possibly could get this and swap out the graphics card when prices come down?
 
chunksafc said:
So possibly could get this and swap out the graphics card when prices come down?
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Hmmm. Not sure about that. The PSU is fairly low power. I put a 3060TI in mine, and went for a 750W PSU to give me headroom for future updates. 450W is probably enough for something like a 3060TI, but is it worth upgrading from a 1650? I haven't got the numbers in front of me to know tbh.

And the CPU, I'm not sure how much further you could push that. Maybe it wouldn't bottleneck something like a 3060TI. But you'd need to check. On the other hand, you might well be able to upgrade the CPU too, AMD have got better with BIOS updates to allow all of the AM4 CPUs to work with all motherboards. Whether that board is any good or not is another question.
So many variables....

(I bought a Prime K motherboard too as there were very few reviews out at the time for alder lake boards. Now I'm regretting it as it looks like it won't handle an upgrade down the line)
 
PTR said:
Hmmm. Not sure about that. The PSU is fairly low power. I put a 3060TI in mine, and went for a 750W PSU to give me headroom for future updates. 450W is probably enough for something like a 3060TI, but is it worth upgrading from a 1650? I haven't got the numbers in front of me to know tbh.

And the CPU, I'm not sure how much further you could push that. Maybe it wouldn't bottleneck something like a 3060TI. But you'd need to check. On the other hand, you might well be able to upgrade the CPU too, AMD have got better with BIOS updates to allow all of the AM4 CPUs to work with all motherboards. Whether that board is any good or not is another question.
So many variables....

(I bought a Prime K motherboard too as there were very few reviews out at the time for alder lake boards. Now I'm regretting it as it looks like it won't handle an upgrade down the line)
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I have no idea what that means:lol:

Would it suit my 13 year old playing fortnite, minecraft and possibly some other first person shooters?
 

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