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Second Test - England v NZ

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TwasOnTheFifthOfMay said:
Trott was throwing a massive sulk during his interview, saying people criticising him for slow play were "the same ones who think they could do better and move the game along easily, it's called Test cricket for a reason". Also that you shouldn't think about the weather forecast when you're deciding when to declare. Boycott then said he was talking twaddle :lol:
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A surprising number of Sky commentators seems to agree with this. Personally, I definitely think weather forecasts should be considered and decisions made partially to do with them.
 

Wise Man Says said:
A surprising number of Sky commentators seems to agree with this. Personally, I definitely think weather forecasts should be considered and decisions made partially to do with them.
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That would seem to make sense, especially when you've already lost a day. For me, you look very hard for the quickest way to win the match at all times, in this case sticking them straight back in, and there would have to be a very good reason not to go for it. In this match they seem to be going all round the houses.

I saw another Trott interview where he said they wouldn't want to be chasing maybe 150 batting last. Really? That sounds absolutely pathetic and sends a big negative message to Australia.
 
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Baffling decision to bat on. One big criticism of this England side is that they are almost ultra-conservative and have been throughout Flower's reign. A few times in recent memory now we have pointlessly batted on to a 450/500 lead when the Australians of 10 years ago would have had the opposition 5 down in that time.

Fair enough if we were up against the South African batting line up, but this is a side who scored a combined total of less than 240 in their last 2 innings, with rain on the way, made no sense whatsoever.
 
The Breen Machine said:
Baffling decision to bat on. One big criticism of this England side is that they are almost ultra-conservative and have been throughout Flower's reign. A few times in recent memory now we have pointlessly batted on to a 450/500 lead when the Australians of 10 years ago would have had the opposition 5 down in that time.

Fair enough if we were up against the South African batting line up, but this is a side who scored a combined total of less than 240 in their last 2 innings, with rain on the way, made no sense whatsoever.
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Apparently the England set up do not take this into account when making any decisions.

Wayne The Punk said:
Shit, well lets hope we get the chance to wrap this one up, if we dont Flower and Cook should have a hard look at their tactics
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If the forecast I have just looked at is current we will be hard pushed to see any play today.

TwasOnTheFifthOfMay said:
That would seem to make sense, especially when you've already lost a day. For me, you look very hard for the quickest way to win the match at all times, in this case sticking them straight back in, and there would have to be a very good reason not to go for it. In this match they seem to be going all round the houses.

I saw another Trott interview where he said they wouldn't want to be chasing maybe 150 batting last. Really? That sounds absolutely pathetic and sends a big negative message to Australia.
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Very rare to see follow ons being enforced these days.
 
The start of the final day in the final Test between England and New Zealand at Headingley has been delayed by rain.
Prospects for the day are uncertain, with periods of rain expected in Leeds.
With the rain reduced to light drizzle, only the wicket remains covered, though it still remains too damp for umpires Steve Davis and Marais Erasmus to allow play to start.
Bad light ended day four with New Zealand on 158-6, a distant 310 runs short of their victory target.
England could have made New Zealand bat again when the Kiwis were bowled out 180 runs behind on Sunday, but chose to bat on until after lunch on Monday.
BBC Weather's Simon King said there was a chance conditions could improve sufficiently for some play to take place.
"Rain may shift away mid-afternoon but it could stay damp," he said. "If optimistic it could be dry enough for two to three hours before bad light."
 
dangermows said:
Apparently the England set up do not take this into account when making any decisions.



If the forecast I have just looked at is current we will be hard pushed to see any play today.



Very rare to see follow ons being enforced these days.
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I think as noted earlier in the thread Waugh started this trend but with Gilchrist, Hayden, Ponting, Langer and Waugh in your top order it's reasonable to assume you'll ratchet up an unassailable couple of hundred in a session and a half so the time taken is almost negligible. For slower batting orders like England, who do have a very good attack, it just seems bonkers not to have enforced the follow on in these circumstances.
 
Wayne The Punk said:
Bothams eyes this morning, FFS looks like a canny session last night
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Nasser saying they draw straws to see who has to go on the lash with him :lol:

And last week Holidng was saying he went for a meal with Beefy and when he selected the wine the waiter said "Sorry sir, we only have 3 bottles of that in stock" :lol:
 
dangermows said:
Nasser saying they draw straws to see who has to go on the lash with him :lol:

And last week Holidng was saying he went for a meal with Beefy and when he selected the wine the waiter said "Sorry sir, we only have 3 bottles of that in stock" :lol:
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Wow, I am ready for a stretcher after 2 bottles of wine:oops:
 
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