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Lo Ursem said:
The guys taking the club over are investing money in the club on behalf of their clients one of which happens to be Dell. They will want a return on their spend. So I think this will not be a vanity project like City or Chelsea but rather a money making project as they are buying a distressed asset with upside potential and once that potential is realised they will sell. They may even sell us as a championship club
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Incorrect.
 
Lo Ursem said:
The guys taking the club over are investing money in the club on behalf of their clients one of which happens to be Dell. They will want a return on their spend. So I think this will not be a vanity project like City or Chelsea but rather a money making project as they are buying a distressed asset with upside potential and once that potential is realised they will sell. They may even sell us as a championship club
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You’re wrong on so many levels
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
They aren't. They're investing a personal capacity. They are partners in a newly-formed US LLC (FPP Sunderland Llc), which in turn owns 100% of the new UK company FPP Sunderland Ltd. which will acquire the agrees proportion of the shares in Sunderland Ltd. They're not going via MSD Capital or MSD Partners precisely because they aren't looking for a quick return. Indications are that they want to around at least ten years, and will look to help regenerate the city as well as the club. This is a legacy project, not a money-making venture. Another subs bench spouting bullshit. I wonder who and why?
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It is this type or precision we need here mind, especially if you are among those of us in the majority who do not really have any knowledge of this type of thing.
 
Lo Ursem said:
The guys taking the club over are investing money in the club on behalf of their clients one of which happens to be Dell. They will want a return on their spend. So I think this will not be a vanity project like City or Chelsea but rather a money making project as they are buying a distressed asset with upside potential and once that potential is realised they will sell. They may even sell us as a championship club
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Link?
 
shepherd88 said:
Just looks like another lads fans who has repeated something by mistake, looking at his post history. Not every poster is following this thread in detail, decent Sunderland fans will get things wrong. We all had to start posting on here as a subs bench at some point.

Who did you think it was and what motive did you think they had for lying?
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I've heard that the press are all over this thread, and have also been creating logins to push out bogus information. A bit tinfoil hat, but it's well within the realms of possibility.
 
chave said:
To be fair, internationally succesful businessmen investing a fortune into a community halfway round the world and a club for no financial return makes no sense, so it's understandable people will question it.

Ultimately, nobody knows their actual plans for the club, apart from them.
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Who owns your club mate?
 
Fetch Fletch said:
No they're not :confused:
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Neither of you actually know why they are buying the club or their intentions. I have been involved in Private Equity investments for a few years in different industries (was in discussion with a group interested in buying Leeds United). For the most part the have a 4 to 5 year ROI plan and they see a good result as doubling or trebling their investment in that time. The last one I was part of got 2.4 times investment and sold earlier than planned. These guys might see this as a long term investment but I doubt it, 5 year horizon is my guess. Either way the only way they can make real money is by getting into and stabilising in the premier league so it’s a yes from me.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
I've heard that the press are all over this thread, and have also been creating logins to push out bogus information. A bit tinfoil hat, but it's well within the realms of possibility.
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It’s easily done and they wouldn’t have to get off their arses to do it. Right up their street and I’d be amazed if they hadn’t been doing it for quite some time.
 
ShieldsBlackCat2015 said:
Is everyone deliriously happy yet at the news of the takeover?

Is the champagne flowing where you are right now?
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Yanar what mate? I saw a post a while ago from you complaining about how people on here talk to you and that you were sick of it.

I totally understand why you get the reactions you do! You bring it all on yourself because you go on like a f***ing tit, tbf.
 
chave said:
To be fair, internationally succesful businessmen investing a fortune into a community halfway round the world and a club for no financial return makes no sense, so it's understandable people will question it.

Ultimately, nobody knows their actual plans for the club, apart from them.
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Eh? More and more the ownership of clubs in the top two divisions has gone to internationally successful businessmen from around the world - your post is rather nonsensical mate.

I'm not saying all of the foreign investment has been a triumph, but the point stands!
 
Sunderlandellight said:
Maybe, maybe not. They're only paying around 40-50 million pounds. They paid more than that for a 7% share in the Miami Marlins. MSD have investments in so many businesses, that it's not beyond comprehension that they could easily double or triple their investment in less than 4-5 years by simply getting promoted to the Premier League and then selling on. This is how they became billionaires.

The big hope is that they will be around long enough with deep pockets to fund both a successful return to the Premier League, and also make us competitive in the top half of that league. That's the dream for now. Let's hope it becomes reality.
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As I understand it these lads are using their own money and are not acting on behalf of MSD.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
I've heard that the press are all over this thread, and have also been creating logins to push out bogus information. A bit tinfoil hat, but it's well within the realms of possibility.
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Believable given that there is nothing (as expected) coming out of the club. They need to fill their columns with something. Surprised the monorail hasn't been mentioned in the Financial Times yet.
 
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