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They aren't. They're investing a personal capacity. They are partners in a newly-formed US LLC (FPP Sunderland Llc), which in turn owns 100% of the new UK company FPP Sunderland Ltd. which will acquire the agrees proportion of the shares in Sunderland Ltd. They're not going via MSD Capital or MSD Partners precisely because they aren't looking for a quick return. Indications are that they want to around at least ten years, and will look to help regenerate the city as well as the club. This is a legacy project, not a money-making venture. Another subs bench spouting bullshit. I wonder who and why?
What relevance has subs bench. I really hope you are correct. Who am I ? First game 1966 last game tuesday night.
 

There have been so many interpretations of this. I do suspect however that they see the club as a source of profit. If the takeover happens we will soon realise as to what their motive is

Not sure I agree. Sounds very much like you are trying to get a bite.
 
People worth a combined £15-£20 billion buying us to sell for about £5 million profit in the championship man :lol: :lol: :lol:

Fuck me that’s about a week’s interest for them. :lol:
I’m sure they occasionally find that much in the arse pocket of a pair of jeans they haven’t worn for a while 😂
but that's a big shift from your original post where you seemed to be specific about them investing on behalf of others when they aren't.
Another one bites the dust.
 
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Lots of bollocks will be spouted by those that pretend to be in the know...

Events just have to unfold and be judged as they happen.

Personally as I understand it Donald is not all that rich, so if he brings in new owners who are rich... that in itself is a very good step to happen, as it means we are not likely to go bankrupt. We may have some FFP rules to deal with, but it also means we can probably get some better players to get out the turd division and then the Championship.

For the record imho Ross stays as manager ( at least for now)
 
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They aren't. They're investing a personal capacity. They are partners in a newly-formed US LLC (FPP Sunderland Llc), which in turn owns 100% of the new UK company FPP Sunderland Ltd. which will acquire the agrees proportion of the shares in Sunderland Ltd. They're not going via MSD Capital or MSD Partners precisely because they aren't looking for a quick return. Indications are that they want to around at least ten years, and will look to help regenerate the city as well as the club. This is a legacy project, not a money-making venture. Another subs bench spouting bullshit. I wonder who and why?
To be fair, internationally succesful businessmen investing a fortune into a community halfway round the world and a club for no financial return makes no sense, so it's understandable people will question it.

Ultimately, nobody knows their actual plans for the club, apart from them.
 
The guys taking the club over are investing money in the club on behalf of their clients one of which happens to be Dell. They will want a return on their spend. So I think this will not be a vanity project like City or Chelsea but rather a money making project as they are buying a distressed asset with upside potential and once that potential is realised they will sell. They may even sell us as a championship club

Just my opinion but they're in it for the long-haul I believe. Only way to get their big bucks back is if we're a success in the PL.
Billionaire's are unlikely to cash out for a 'few million'.
 
do people seriously think they are buying to sell us for a few million quid profit :lol:

this lot are worth ludicrous amounts of money. i doubt they could be arsed with the hassle for a quick flip return of what would be buttons to them

Maybe, maybe not. They're only paying around 40-50 million pounds. They paid more than that for a 7% share in the Miami Marlins. MSD have investments in so many businesses, that it's not beyond comprehension that they could easily double or triple their investment in less than 4-5 years by simply getting promoted to the Premier League and then selling on. This is how they became billionaires.

The big hope is that they will be around long enough with deep pockets to fund both a successful return to the Premier League, and also make us competitive in the top half of that league. That's the dream for now. Let's hope it becomes reality.
 
They aren't. They're investing a personal capacity. They are partners in a newly-formed US LLC (FPP Sunderland Llc), which in turn owns 100% of the new UK company FPP Sunderland Ltd. which will acquire the agrees proportion of the shares in Sunderland Ltd. They're not going via MSD Capital or MSD Partners precisely because they aren't looking for a quick return. Indications are that they want to around at least ten years, and will look to help regenerate the city as well as the club. This is a legacy project, not a money-making venture. Another subs bench spouting bullshit. I wonder who and why?
Just looks like another lads fans who has repeated something by mistake, looking at his post history. Not every poster is following this thread in detail, decent Sunderland fans will get things wrong. We all had to start posting on here as a subs bench at some point.

Who did you think it was and what motive did you think they had for lying?
 
The guys taking the club over are investing money in the club on behalf of their clients one of which happens to be Dell. They will want a return on their spend. So I think this will not be a vanity project like City or Chelsea but rather a money making project as they are buying a distressed asset with upside potential and once that potential is realised they will sell. They may even sell us as a championship club


Perhaps. I'm not sure you have the suggested structure of purchase right actually as some - with a record of knowledge in the field - have said that the individuals concerned are buying on their own behalf and outside of any investment company.

In any event, if very rich men see buying a football with, all it's inherent uncertainties, as a good way to make money, it would make you wonder how they became very rich in the first place.
 
The guys taking the club over are investing money in the club on behalf of their clients one of which happens to be Dell. They will want a return on their spend. So I think this will not be a vanity project like City or Chelsea but rather a money making project as they are buying a distressed asset with upside potential and once that potential is realised they will sell. They may even sell us as a championship club

No they're not :confused:
 
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