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Russia invading Ukraine (NEWS/UPDATES)

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neiluk1985 said:
These ballistic and cruise missile drills they’ve announced for tomorrow, could that be the cover for it kicking off?
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Certainly not,it wont kick off until Vlad remounts his horse with man moobs on full show akin to a BIshop Auckland wannabee ***** at Appleby fair.
 

Scotty said:
China and Taiwan has always struck me as a funny one

you're right, it'd be a bloodbath - probably overwhelming missile attacks with a massive amphib landing and carnage

but China's stated aim has always been to reclaim the 'wayward child' - you dont do that by flattening the island though
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More likely that they'll just wait a couple of decades until they own half the banks and corporations there and then start to influence the politics. It's what they've done elsewhere - use capitalism's inherent weaknesses (unquenchable avarice and greed) against western-style capitalist economies.
 
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Fuck Russia
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Well they are pretty well assuring that what they want from NATO is going to be the opposite of their demands. Do they really expect the former Eastern Block countries that have joined NATO after being dominated by the Soviet Union for 45 years are going to say ok we'll leave. Fuck em and Belarus which is a country still steeped in the Stalinist era.
 
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Mercia Blackcat said:
Well they are pretty well assuring that what they want from NATO is going to be the opposite of their demands. Do they really expect the former Eastern Block countries that have joined NATO after being dominated by the Soviet Union for 45 years are going to say ok we'll leave. Fuck em and Belarus which is a country still steeped in the Stalinist era.
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Lukashenko can eat a satchel of dicks.
 
Sadly if the West throws everything at Putin in terms of sanctions as soon as he invades then they have no where else to go and he has little left to lose in going further then Ukraine.

If he assumes the West won’t use force then once he loses his economy, Nordstream etc… what else would dissuade him from going further into Eastern Europe

If the West don’t offer an exit route he may well just keep the tanks rolling
 
MonkeyLove said:
Sadly if the West throws everything at Putin in terms of sanctions as soon as he invades then they have no where else to go and he has little left to lose in going further then Ukraine.

If he assumes the West won’t use force then once he loses his economy, Nordstream etc… what else would dissuade him from going further into Eastern Europe

If the West don’t offer an exit route he may well just keep the tanks rolling
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He can’t go much further into Eastern Europe than Ukraine until he hits NATO’s eastern border - the one thing he doesn’t want Ukraine to be.

Article V stops him from going into a NATO country.
 
MonkeyLove said:
Sadly if the West throws everything at Putin in terms of sanctions as soon as he invades then they have no where else to go and he has little left to lose in going further then Ukraine.

If he assumes the West won’t use force then once he loses his economy, Nordstream etc… what else would dissuade him from going further into Eastern Europe

If the West don’t offer an exit route he may well just keep the tanks rolling
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Cost I think. Wars are expensive, he has had to modernise a very depleted army, which he has and has done to be fair, but while going through sanctions and the country is not that rich to start with.

His country has been hit quite bad with COVID as well, and if he attacks, it's borderline global sanctions, although China will still buy their gas I would think.

Im starting to think he is going to attack Ukraine. It will be nasty for Ukraine, he has a strong army for initial attacks and the first wave will be a show of strength but will dwindle I think if things get drawn out, purely down to economic resources. China again may economically back them up.

Hopefully, Ukraine have been kitted out with really good defensive supplies and their army has been practising for this for a while.

I'm concerned with the global batshitness around at the minute that it spills over into something more global.

Hopefully it's a massive bluff and everyone can agree to something that diffuses the situation.
 
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