karlm14
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jesus wept.
RR Podcast: With Paul Reid & Charlie Methven - submit your questions/topics to discuss
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jesus wept.
Would be a shame? What hassle do you get, people on here moaning? I’d say in the main it’s been pretty measured.
The Cabbage
Striker
Don't agree that they're propaganda but they're certainly less critical of the club than the WMS lads - and definitely less critical than Donald's performance deserves.
Shame that gav is talking about not doing them again to an extent. However, if don't hear methvens delightful mix of patronising superiority and abject lack of true football understanding again it'll be too soon. It might be a shame that there's less openness and fan engagement but the simple fact is that the current regime should be concentrating on improving their performance massively. As things stand we're going nowhere with them. Maybe shut the fuck up trying to manage the fans and do something - anything - that shows you have the first f***ing clue how to run a football club.
Beaverbrooke
Midfield
Dont let the monsters stop you.
Plenty of people enjoy them.
Ffs - 'moaners'
It reads like the majority of posters complaining knew what they were going to get and listened anyway.
The Voice Of Reason
Striker
Think the lad done his best reading out pre prepared questions but CM is obviously a very polished PR man and would always put his spin on it making it difficult to dig down
Lads at RR are unpaid good supporters of the club trying to provide a service I think harsh criticism is unfair
Lads at RR are unpaid good supporters of the club trying to provide a service I think harsh criticism is unfair
The Albanian
Winger
I wouldn’t take the criticism to heart mate - it feels more like a criticism of Charlie from a set of fans lashing out due to the frustration of where we find ourselves
Although I’d maybe decline the opportunity to do any with Charlie again
SAFC 2012
Striker
f***ing hell. I know you tell kids that winning isnt that importabt when theyre 7 year old but telling 20 year olds its not about winning is f***ing hideousWe are fucked under these idiots like
We are fucked under these idiots like
I didn't think he meant that mind. I took it to mean simply that results aren't the most important thing at that level, which is true. Of course every team should want to win, but if (and I know we aren't!) we were producing a couple of top class, hendo and Pickford types but the rest of the u23s were pretty useless then they'd probably lose a lot. Ultimately we wouldn't care because it would all be about bringing the two potential stars through. If they help us go up, or even if they have to move but it brings us £20m or whatever then it'd have been a very successful u23 side regardless of results. It's why he was saying he'd rather have a couple of 9/10 players and a load of 3/10s than a squad full of 6/10s, the latter would get better results so if that's what matters than great, but likely none would be good enough to come through and contribute either on the pitch or financially.
I agree with that completely, the problem we have currently is that the 23s seem to have neither! They aren't a team of 6/10s getting results since they're getting pumped every week, and there aren't any 9/10 players that we can at least think might help us next season. So although I agree with what I think his point was meant to be (don't judge the academy purely on the results they get), it doesn't make the issue of under performance or the concern about losing the good players we have are younger age groups any less of a concern
SAFC 2012
Striker
Maybe if yous grew a f***ing backbone instead of bowing down and accepting everything they say then people wouldnt be so critical like
Are yous scared they stop your snippets of bullshit like?
Cack Stottie
Winger
Whenever you post I can't help but nod my head and agree. People really ought to take note of what you say.
I'm presuming you haven't been reading this thread at all.
Don't say that man! You'll upset everyone
What I've took from this though, is that we should all be happy with the situation we find ourselves and our academy in. It's actually class losing every week, it's for development.
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Listened to it this morning , interesting point made about the criteria for appointing the new manager and the seven references.
Just wish the interviewer had responded with why was the criteria used to come to the decision to sack Ross , which now appears hasty and possibly not the right decision.
Seems to me that the questions are fixed and he’s probably knows what’s coming, tell me I’m wrong but that the impression I’m left with.
Can’t see the point of the other lads being their , they contributed next to nowt.
That’s constructive criticism mind , not a dig.
Stopping the podcast interviews of staff ?
Really ?
You need folk on who your listeners want to hear , if you can’t accept criticism that naturally comes with it , switch it all off now , you can’t have your pink slice and eat it .
Just wish the interviewer had responded with why was the criteria used to come to the decision to sack Ross , which now appears hasty and possibly not the right decision.
Seems to me that the questions are fixed and he’s probably knows what’s coming, tell me I’m wrong but that the impression I’m left with.
Can’t see the point of the other lads being their , they contributed next to nowt.
That’s constructive criticism mind , not a dig.
Stopping the podcast interviews of staff ?
Really ?
You need folk on who your listeners want to hear , if you can’t accept criticism that naturally comes with it , switch it all off now , you can’t have your pink slice and eat it .
Black Cat Gypsy
Striker
This is how Charlie treats the interviewers on the podcasts.
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SAFC 2012
Striker
Character building. All the best sides academy teams get scudded every week. Its natural
beam1234
Striker
I think RR asked most of the right questions, they avoided some of the questions put forward because they have been asked and answered multiple times. They did it in a respectful way. Which is right and proper.
I think we are fortunate to regularly hear one of our owners talk about our club despite not liking some of the answers. I appreciate CM taking the time to do it.
I can’t find anything to get outraged about from this podcast and yet it seems most on here are. I hate being in L1 and find it unacceptable that we are here. These owners did not put us here. They have made us an attractive proposition for investors or buyers and we will get a crack at promotion this year. Sacking Ross was correct.
Most of the answers CM have I think were accurate.
I think his problem is that he is not one of us. He is absolutely spot on about personal abuse being vile but when he criticises the match attending fans he is on thin ice. We criticise the atmosphere on here all the time but are understandably aggrieved when an outsider does it.
The U18s and 23s are losing because of loans, 1st team squad promotions, and poaching at 15yo. Again not their fault.
I don’t like it when CM says anything bad about our attending fans. I don’t like that we are not bossing L1. I don’t like that SD has gone off the grid.
Our sense of entitlement, often outraged entitlement doesn’t give us the right to attack SD for going quiet, attack CM for saying some unpalatable truths, attack RR for being considered in their access to SAFC.
I think we are fortunate to regularly hear one of our owners talk about our club despite not liking some of the answers. I appreciate CM taking the time to do it.
I can’t find anything to get outraged about from this podcast and yet it seems most on here are. I hate being in L1 and find it unacceptable that we are here. These owners did not put us here. They have made us an attractive proposition for investors or buyers and we will get a crack at promotion this year. Sacking Ross was correct.
Most of the answers CM have I think were accurate.
I think his problem is that he is not one of us. He is absolutely spot on about personal abuse being vile but when he criticises the match attending fans he is on thin ice. We criticise the atmosphere on here all the time but are understandably aggrieved when an outsider does it.
The U18s and 23s are losing because of loans, 1st team squad promotions, and poaching at 15yo. Again not their fault.
I don’t like it when CM says anything bad about our attending fans. I don’t like that we are not bossing L1. I don’t like that SD has gone off the grid.
Our sense of entitlement, often outraged entitlement doesn’t give us the right to attack SD for going quiet, attack CM for saying some unpalatable truths, attack RR for being considered in their access to SAFC.
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The Cabbage
Striker
Hmmm. A lot of what Methven said was demonstrably untrue.
beam1234
Striker
Let’s have it then.
“A lot”????
The Cabbage
Striker
Well the bits about us competing with Man City at u23 level and about Parkinson’s exploits keeping Colchester in the championship just for starters. Then speak to @KStephenson about his accuracy with regards to what happens with promising young players. I’m not totally convinced that he’s saying things that aren’t true deliberately. I just think he’s a classic pub bore. His confidence WAY outstrips his knowledge of the game.
beam1234
Striker
I don’t know KS so can’t comment on his version but I do know several academy staff members so have a decent version of it myself.
Think you’re right about the Colchester thing but the context of that still stands. Getting them out of L1 was very impressive.
As for the pub bore bit, maybe right, I don’t see it like that but it’s your opinion so fair enough. I’d still rather hear it than not.
I honestly think we are all struggling with not bombing this shit league and CM is the target of that frustration. Some of that he’s brought on himself but he did say this on day 1.
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