Regarding the environment, are we fucked?

mysticmackem

Midfield
Hopefully some mega virus is released soon that wipes out mankind before the planet is beyond saving!
The planet will survive, as it did last time when half the species on earth were wiped out including the dinasaurs. The force of regeneration seems to be programmed to protect the planet. If humans have to be wiped out, so be it. A new era will likely come, and possibly different species will take over and evolve, and hopefully will treat the planet better than we have. Ancient civilisations recognised that humans had to work with nature, and not against it. We seem to have ignored that, to our detriment.
 

muggboots

Striker
The planet will survive, as it did last time when half the species on earth were wiped out including the dinasaurs. The force of regeneration seems to be programmed to protect the planet. If humans have to be wiped out, so be it. A new era will likely come, and possibly different species will take over and evolve, and hopefully will treat the planet better than we have. Ancient civilisations recognised that humans had to work with nature, and not against it. We seem to have ignored that, to our detriment.
The idea that a species could come to dominate the planet like we have and develop advanced technologies as we have without being as aggressive and/or wasteful as we have been to get here is doubtful. I personally think it's all bound up in the Fermi Paradox with civilisations being somewhat self erasing once they reach a certain level. I honestly think that humans will survive the current environmental catastrophe but in much lower numbers and with a bloody nose. That almost knockout whack in Humankind's collective grid will hopefully cause the massive reassessment necessary to change course. If it can be done without an enormous technological rewind (a back to square one job) it will possibly set us up for millennia. I've still got the nagging feeling that we're the baddies though. :lol:
 

joemcdokes

Striker
they are in decline though, people are switching on these days. the days of the range rover are etc are on the way out.
My point was you can still get them, bit odd what with the environment and what not or doesn’t it apply to those well off who can still spend megabucks on non low emissions big engined vehicles?
 

mickonline

Midfield
My point was you can still get them, bit odd what with the environment and what not or doesn’t it apply to those well off who can still spend megabucks on non low emissions big engined vehicles?
Theres a lot of differing views out there that this electric cars are worse for the environment. Where does the electricity come from, the minerals to make the batteries, how many times around the world to get the raw materials changed to batteries then delivered to the car factories.
 

muggboots

Striker
Theres a lot of differing views out there that this electric cars are worse for the environment. Where does the electricity come from, the minerals to make the batteries, how many times around the world to get the raw materials changed to batteries then delivered to the car factories.
The power generation thing is just a question of economics and scale, long term it is more efficient to build cleaner power stations, wind turbines or solar power plants. The materials you would need to manufacture the battery packs etc. for every new car constructed on Earth however, are unimaginable. :lol:
 

joemcdokes

Striker
Theres a lot of differing views out there that this electric cars are worse for the environment. Where does the electricity come from, the minerals to make the batteries, how many times around the world to get the raw materials changed to batteries then delivered to the car factories.

Seems as long as there are zero emissions from the cars governments don't give a shit about any of that.
 
Theres a lot of differing views out there that this electric cars are worse for the environment. Where does the electricity come from, the minerals to make the batteries, how many times around the world to get the raw materials changed to batteries then delivered to the car factories.
Local air pollution will be improved which is what local politicians will be committed to. As for the global impact it will be 'we only produce 1%, what about USA, China...'

UK 'not acting fast enough' on climate change
 
The human race may be doomed but the planet certainly is not. More than 95% of the species that have ever existed are extinct. One the last human is gone the earth will slowly start to recover until it reaches peak diversification again.
It certainly is.

When the sun runs out of its power source it will expand into a red giant and engulf planet Earth, vapourising it.
 

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