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Rafa. He's still not happy

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Do you think its wages that are stalling deals rather then the fee?
Dunno, maybe. Stands to reason that as transfer fees explode, wage demands will go up too. Also there'll be demands made by players about playing time, release clauses if someone better comes in for them, or if we go down. I'm sure the agents will demand a whole heap of shit too.
 
But you're not going to spend every penny of the premier league money. You lot not got running costs like.
Course we do, but we'll be receiving further payments after the window closes, so it makes sense to use some if not all of that money now and have our billionaire owner cover any costs that aren't covered by the "wipe our own nose" financial plan he put in place.

What good is spending nowt now and having millions come in during a period where we can't make signings? Especially when the next window is notoriously bad for getting good value.
 
Course we do, but we'll be receiving further payments after the window closes, so it makes sense to use some if not all of that money now and have our billionaire owner cover any costs that aren't covered by the "wipe our own nose" financial plan he put in place.

What good is spending nowt now and having millions come in during a period where we can't make signings? Especially when the next window is notoriously bad for getting good value.
You've spent 35 million.
 
Hang on, either he gets credit for the sales and is in charge of spending, or he gets no credit for the sales and bears no responsibility for the purchases.
He will get credit if Hanley gets sold for £15m, but he gets no credit for Sissoko, Wynaldum, townsend and the rest being sold last summer. Surely you can see the difference?
 
Which is nowt in this market, where Nathan Ake goes for £20m and Kyle Walker goes for £50m. Especially when the areas we ne3ed to strengthen (#10, striker) are so often over-priced anyway.

Bournemouth have a much smaller wage bill and its embarassing you even used Man City as an example.

You kept a premier league wage bill in the championship on a championship turnover.

You cant get rid of players at the moment so Ashley is rightfully holding back the calibre of player you sign. I bet if you got some stupid club to take Colback off your hands youd sign someone decent but until then itll be players who command low wages as you have signed.
 
He will get credit if Hanley gets sold for £15m, but he gets no credit for Sissoko, Wynaldum, townsend and the rest being sold last summer. Surely you can see the difference?

Well, he gets no credit for Townsend because that was a release clause. But he and Charnley would have discussed Sissoko's value. Can't you see you're trying to arrange the criteria to afford no credit for anything good, and yet blame him for all that is bad? :lol:

He's made missteps in the market, but his transfer policy delivered not only immediate automatic promotion, but the 2nd flight title. The squad he inherited, the players that were set to leave, the football he wanted to play and the depth of the squad all dictated the players he brought in. He built a squad to deliver on an aim in that regard he's been successful.

He now needs to build a new squad for a different aim. And it behoves Barnes and Charnley to support him because he's our safest bet at delivering survival, and growth thereafter. If that costs us £60m now and £60m every season going forward, then so be it.
 
Which makes a mockery of their claims 'he' has made a profit.
If he spots a player, take Hanley, and they sell him for a decent profit I'd give him credit for spotting the potential. This hasn't happened in the 3 windows he has had yet they still treat him like some sort of miracle worker.
 
Well, he gets no credit for Townsend because that was a release clause. But he and Charnley would have discussed Sissoko's value. Can't you see you're trying to arrange the criteria to afford no credit for anything good, and yet blame him for all that is bad? :lol:

He's made missteps in the market, but his transfer policy delivered not only immediate automatic promotion, but the 2nd flight title. The squad he inherited, the players that were set to leave, the football he wanted to play and the depth of the squad all dictated the players he brought in. He built a squad to deliver on an aim in that regard he's been successful.

He now needs to build a new squad for a different aim. And it behoves Barnes and Charnley to support him because he's our safest bet at delivering survival, and growth thereafter. If that costs us £60m now and £60m every season going forward, then so be it.

So where does this 60m come from?

Or does the club just get in debt and see what happens?
 
Bournemouth have a much smaller wage bill and its embarassing you even used Man City as an example.

You kept a premier league wage bill in the championship on a championship turnover.

You cant get rid of players at the moment so Ashley is rightfully holding back the calibre of player you sign. I bet if you got some stupid club to take Colback off your hands youd sign someone decent but until then itll be players who command low wages as you have signed.

We dumped a lot of our wages to be fair. Cisse, Colo, Janmaat, Sissoko, Taylor, Townsend etc.

The point still stands, in the context of this window, a newly promoted side only spending £30m is a gamble.
 
Well, he gets no credit for Townsend because that was a release clause. But he and Charnley would have discussed Sissoko's value. Can't you see you're trying to arrange the criteria to afford no credit for anything good, and yet blame him for all that is bad? :lol:

He's made missteps in the market, but his transfer policy delivered not only immediate automatic promotion, but the 2nd flight title. The squad he inherited, the players that were set to leave, the football he wanted to play and the depth of the squad all dictated the players he brought in. He built a squad to deliver on an aim in that regard he's been successful.

He now needs to build a new squad for a different aim. And it behoves Barnes and Charnley to support him because he's our safest bet at delivering survival, and growth thereafter. If that costs us £60m now and £60m every season going forward, then so be it.
Explain to me what value he added or contributed to the sale of sissoko. Ashley has been there 10 years in your experience of him do you honestly believe Benitez could have told him not to sell sissoko for £30+ mill?
 
So where does this 60m come from?

Or does the club just get in debt and see what happens?
Well the rest of the £30m will be recieved from the subsequent installments of the Premier League money. Further spending should come from player sales and Premier League money. We're financially well run, so to suggest we'd risk our financial future is a bit melodramatic. Also bear in mind it was a figure plucked from the air to prove a point, so I wouldn't focus on it too much.

Explain to me what value he added or contributed to the sale of sissoko. Ashley has been there 10 years in your experience of him do you honestly believe Benitez could have told him not to sell sissoko for £30+ mill?

Tell me who set the price for Sissoko if it wasn't a figure taken from discussions with the manager? Lee Charnley on his own? Then he surely shoulders the blame for Sels?
 
Well the rest of the £30m will be recieved from the subsequent installments of the Premier League money. Further spending should come from player sales and Premier League money. We're financially well run, so to suggest we'd risk our financial future is a bit melodramatic. Also bear in mind it was a figure plucked from the air to prove a point, so I wouldn't focus on it too much.
Who has got you in the position where you are financially well run?
 
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