Put a flat earthier into space

[fyl2u]

By all means think that. I'm just telling you what it is from my side. I'm not asking you to believe it.

The two are the same thing.

They are both the same thing.

I gave you the simplest primitive form. It doesn't matter what is used to be fair but to allow the lay person to understand the simplest form so they can understand what life basically is.


The vibrating guitar string.

It can only do so efficiently with friction. To do it without renders it not a sound system.

Nope. I told you this before.
Our senses pick up what we see of light through the spectrum. We also feel the heat and feel the vibrations but we may or may not see them, although specialist equipment may or even insects...etc.

Energy equals vibration which is friction which is sound and frequencies which also create heat and also light.
All are the same thing in different patterns, that's all.

Visible light is what our eyes make of the colour spectrum.
What is absorbed and mixed to offer us what we see as colours and brightness of them.
We can see mixing in the basic colour spectrum which as we all know by mixing actual colours themselves, we can alter the colour wavelengths back to our eyes from the source as reflection.

Vibration is ice cream. I'm just telling you what it is from my side. I'm not asking you to believe it.

 

[taipeisafc]

I think I've got it now. Different wavelengths and frequencies generate different colours. But light doesn't doesnt wave a speed.

I wonder it refraction is also 'fine to be going along with'.

And the periodic table, how about that?

Don't get him started on that - he has already had a go at that earlier in the thread.

 

[3.142]

Vibration is ice cream. I'm just telling you what it is from my side. I'm not asking you to believe it.

Ice cream = milk = cow = grass = green = colour = light = sound = friction = vibration.

Simple.

 

[What A Waster]

By all means think that. I'm just telling you what it is from my side. I'm not asking you to believe it.

The two are the same thing.

They are both the same thing.

I gave you the simplest primitive form. It doesn't matter what is used, to be fair.... but to allow the lay person to understand the simplest form so they can understand what life basically is.


The vibrating guitar string.

It can only do so efficiently with friction. To do it without renders it not a sound system.

Nope. I told you this before.
Our senses pick up what we see of light through the spectrum. We also feel the heat and feel the vibrations but we may or may not see them, although specialist equipment may or even insects...etc.

Energy equals vibration which is friction which is sound and frequencies which also create heat and also light.
All are the same thing in different patterns, that's all.

Visible light is what our eyes make of the colour spectrum.
What is absorbed and mixed to offer us what we see as colours and brightness of them.
We can see mixing in the basic colour spectrum which as we all know by mixing actual colours themselves, we can alter the colour wavelengths back to our eyes from the source as reflection.

I can't see my neighbour's telly through the wall but I can hear it. Yet light and sound are the same thing.
That's weird isn't it?

 

[Nobby]

I can't see my neighbour's telly through the wall but I can hear it. Yet light and sound are the same thing.
That's weird isn't it?

Yeah but if it's loud enough it will be heating your wall for you

 

[DaveH]

By all means think that. I'm just telling you what it is from my side. I'm not asking you to believe it.

The two are the same thing.

They are both the same thing.

I gave you the simplest primitive form. It doesn't matter what is used, to be fair.... but to allow the lay person to understand the simplest form so they can understand what life basically is.


The vibrating guitar string.

It can only do so efficiently with friction. To do it without renders it not a sound system.

Nope. I told you this before.
Our senses pick up what we see of light through the spectrum. We also feel the heat and feel the vibrations but we may or may not see them, although specialist equipment may or even insects...etc.

Energy equals vibration which is friction which is sound and frequencies which also create heat and also light.
All are the same thing in different patterns, that's all.

Visible light is what our eyes make of the colour spectrum.
What is absorbed and mixed to offer us what we see as colours and brightness of them.
We can see mixing in the basic colour spectrum which as we all know by mixing actual colours themselves, we can alter the colour wavelengths back to our eyes from the source as reflection.

I think we need to chalk this down to the "stubborn wrong assumption and will stick to it despite no evidence for and loads of evidence again" column.

Almost everything you said above is just wrong, in every possible way.

Like many of your things, ask "why does the rest of the human population think different from me? why are there so many texts from high level research papers to basic primary school resources saying I'm wrong? Could I be wrong? Is it really a conspiracy and a cover up? Are they really out to get me?".

The answer is just you are wrong and nobody is trying to catch you out. You are just struggling to understand anything beyond rubbing two sticks together, which was often said was the first step towards human sophistication.

Vibration is ice cream. I'm just telling you what it is from my side. I'm not asking you to believe it.

Ice cream is not really cream. How can squeezing a sheep then churning the end product about in a freezer give you ice cream. Those Walls adverts, all CGI. Have you seen Forest Gump and the "all the ice cream you can eat scene"? Was that real? There is absolutely zero evidence.

Look at potatoes, they are white inside and so is so called ice cream. Potatoes are fairly solid and so is ice cream.

Just think about that. If you can break your mindset and think of this logically, the answers are there to be seen.

Yeah but if it's loud enough it will be heating your wall for you

If you are out hiking and encounter someone with symptoms of hyperthermia, just shout at them. If it is dark, shout louder.

 

[DPTT]

I think we need to chalk this down to the "stubborn wrong assumption and will stick to it despite no evidence for and loads of evidence again" column.

Almost everything you said above is just wrong, in every possible way.

Like many of your things, ask "why does the rest of the human population think different from me? why are there so many texts from high level research papers to basic primary school resources saying I'm wrong? Could I be wrong? Is it really a conspiracy and a cover up? Are they really out to get me?".

The answer is just you are wrong and nobody is trying to catch you out. You are just struggling to understand anything beyond rubbing two sticks together, which was often said was the first step towards human sophistication.

Ice cream is not really cream. How can squeezing a sheep then churning the end product about in a freezer give you ice cream. Those Walls adverts, all CGI. Have you seen Forest Gump and the "all the ice cream you can eat scene"? Was that real? There is absolutely zero evidence.

Look at potatoes, they are white inside and so is so called ice cream. Potatoes are fairly solid and so is ice cream.

Just think about that. If you can break your mindset and think of this logically, the answers are there to be seen.

If you are out hiking and encounter someone with symptoms of hyperthermia, just shout at them. If it is dark, shout louder.

I do wonder who told Eratosthenes to pretend the earth was a sphere and who provided the fake data for him

 

[fyl2u]

If you are out hiking and encounter someone with symptoms of hyperthermia, just shout at them. If it is dark, shout louder.

I just guffawed.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

I think we need to chalk this down to the "stubborn wrong assumption and will stick to it despite no evidence for and loads of evidence again" column.

Feel free to do as you wish.

Almost everything you said above is just wrong, in every possible way.

In your opinion and you're welcome to it. It doesn't change my stance...but then you already know this.

Like many of your things, ask "why does the rest of the human population think different from me?

The rest?
Do you have knowledge of the rest or maybe just what you think are the rest?

why are there so many texts from high level research papers to basic primary school resources saying I'm wrong? Could I be wrong? Is it really a conspiracy and a cover up? Are they really out to get me?".

Well, let's look at it from the simplest form.
A spinning globe. Just those few words offer a narrative to the many.
Nobody has the ability to verify the truth of it but many many many things ride on the back of those few words.

The answer is just you are wrong and nobody is trying to catch you out.

Catch me out?
The narrative of what's offered to the masses is ongoing. It will continue to go the way of the official story tellers.
They aren't trying to catch me out. I'm questioning their stories and the relayed stories to those who offer the very same stories to the masses who are placed under their collective officialdom.

You are just struggling to understand anything beyond rubbing two sticks together,

No. I offered them to you so you could understand.

which was often said was the first step towards human sophistication.

Now you're getting it.

 

[Nobby]

A spinning globe. Just those few words offer a narrative to the many.
Nobody has the ability to verify the truth of it

They have the ability and have done so.

 

[What A Waster]

They have the ability and have done so.

He's done it again. Gets pinned down on something, starts ignoring people, can't get anywhere so drops the old "no proof whatsoever" line about a spinning globe and we start again. But it moves the discussion away from the latest corner he's painted himself into.

 

[DaveH]

I do wonder who told Eratosthenes to pretend the earth was a sphere and who provided the fake data for him

It dates back to the Neolithic Revolution. That was the day people decided to stop wandering as a hunter gatherer and to sit down, farm, cook food etc. This led to more free time where people had time to think and explore ideas. For some it was how to plough a field using tools and animals, rather than by hand. Developments like this increased food yields dramatically. With others building barns as winter stores, people knew they had enough food to see them through. They had never been able to gather enough food to even consider storing it before and many would die out in winter.

A small group of what was back in the day, tribesmen, started looking for the answers to life, the universe and everything. They looked at the resources they had at their disposal and what they could make of them. Being in a wooded area, sticks were in abundance. One group rubbed two together and discovered everything about light, sound, heat, friction, mayonnaise, vibration, molecules, reflection and human senses. One of the others had picked a tree with a soft inner core, which was easily hollowed out. He looked through this hollowed branch he had created and declared upon to his peers of great thinkers "fuck me lads, this place we live is canny flat like".

This news shocked some, but others knowingly nodded, being what they expected all the long. "We have discovered great things tonight" they agreed, "but the masses must never know the real truth. Others will come and try to gain understanding. They will want to go on and build great machines, beyond the sophistication of the plough that Jeff is working on. This work must continue, and although great things they will achieve, they will all be built on a basis of complete misunderstanding of everything. Only our sons and their sons will know the truth.". Many applauded and agreed that they would indeed become the bastions of great truth. Not only must they protect it, but agree that until the end of time, their descendents would push out a fake narrative, falsify data and if at some point other settled communities and ruling hierarchy sprung up, they would induct them into their pact to make sure that nobody in all of biscuit land would uncover the truth.

These self-appointed elite sat proud thinking of the truth they had uncovered that night, and the dynasty they had created. Their passion for falsification would be their never ending legacy. Until once voice sounded from the back. "Oh Dennis, you are surely the greatest and wisest of us all, for it was you who looked down the branch and found it gives tunnel vision (we must invent tunnels by the way to give that phrase meaning), I must ask you but one question, 'why?'". Dennis glanced around at all the eager faces, took a deep breath, puffing up his chest and in his most commanding voice declared to the small group of controllers, "well it's a bit of a laugh isn't it?".

He's done it again. Gets pinned down on something, starts ignoring people, can't get anywhere so drops the old "no proof whatsoever" line about a spinning globe and we start again. But it moves the discussion away from the latest corner he's painted himself into.

Yep. I say light is not sound, so he talks about a spinning globe. Foolish deflection from the latest absurd "musing".

Again I'm asking myself, can this person really believe this? Surely this is a windup? But again I look at think why would someone persist so long and on multiple forums?

 

[DPTT]

It dates back to the Neolithic Revolution. That was the day people decided to stop wandering as a hunter gatherer and to sit down, farm, cook food etc. This led to more free time where people had time to think and explore ideas. For some it was how to plough a field using tools and animals, rather than by hand. Developments like this increased food yields dramatically. With others building barns as winter stores, people knew they had enough food to see them through. They had never been able to gather enough food to even consider storing it before and many would die out in winter.

A small group of what was back in the day, tribesmen, started looking for the answers to life, the universe and everything. They looked at the resources they had at their disposal and what they could make of them. Being in a wooded area, sticks were in abundance. One group rubbed two together and discovered everything about light, sound, heat, friction, mayonnaise, vibration, molecules, reflection and human senses. One of the others had picked a tree with a soft inner core, which was easily hollowed out. He looked through this hollowed branch he had created and declared upon to his peers of great thinkers "fuck me lads, this place we live is canny flat like".

This news shocked some, but others knowingly nodded, being what they expected all the long. "We have discovered great things tonight" they agreed, "but the masses must never know the real truth. Others will come and try to gain understanding. They will want to go on and build great machines, beyond the sophistication of the plough that Jeff is working on. This work must continue, and although great things they will achieve, they will all be built on a basis of complete misunderstanding of everything. Only our sons and their sons will know the truth.". Many applauded and agreed that they would indeed become the bastions of great truth. Not only must they protect it, but agree that until the end of time, their descendents would push out a fake narrative, falsify data and if at some point other settled communities and ruling hierarchy sprung up, they would induct them into their pact to make sure that nobody in all of biscuit land would uncover the truth.

These self-appointed elite sat proud thinking of the truth they had uncovered that night, and the dynasty they had created. Their passion for falsification would be their never ending legacy. Until once voice sounded from the back. "Oh Dennis, you are surely the greatest and wisest of us all, for it was you who looked down the branch and found it gives tunnel vision (we must invent tunnels by the way to give that phrase meaning), I must ask you but one question, 'why?'". Dennis glanced around at all the eager faces, took a deep breath, puffing up his chest and in his most commanding voice declared to the small group of controllers, "well it's a bit of a laugh isn't it?".

Yep. I say light is not sound, so he talks about a spinning globe. Foolish deflection from the latest absurd "musing".

Again I'm asking myself, can this person really believe this? Surely this is a windup? But again I look at think why would someone persist so long and on multiple forums?

Tremendous

 

[What A Waster]

It dates back to the Neolithic Revolution. That was the day people decided to stop wandering as a hunter gatherer and to sit down, farm, cook food etc. This led to more free time where people had time to think and explore ideas. For some it was how to plough a field using tools and animals, rather than by hand. Developments like this increased food yields dramatically. With others building barns as winter stores, people knew they had enough food to see them through. They had never been able to gather enough food to even consider storing it before and many would die out in winter.

A small group of what was back in the day, tribesmen, started looking for the answers to life, the universe and everything. They looked at the resources they had at their disposal and what they could make of them. Being in a wooded area, sticks were in abundance. One group rubbed two together and discovered everything about light, sound, heat, friction, mayonnaise, vibration, molecules, reflection and human senses. One of the others had picked a tree with a soft inner core, which was easily hollowed out. He looked through this hollowed branch he had created and declared upon to his peers of great thinkers "fuck me lads, this place we live is canny flat like".

This news shocked some, but others knowingly nodded, being what they expected all the long. "We have discovered great things tonight" they agreed, "but the masses must never know the real truth. Others will come and try to gain understanding. They will want to go on and build great machines, beyond the sophistication of the plough that Jeff is working on. This work must continue, and although great things they will achieve, they will all be built on a basis of complete misunderstanding of everything. Only our sons and their sons will know the truth.". Many applauded and agreed that they would indeed become the bastions of great truth. Not only must they protect it, but agree that until the end of time, their descendents would push out a fake narrative, falsify data and if at some point other settled communities and ruling hierarchy sprung up, they would induct them into their pact to make sure that nobody in all of biscuit land would uncover the truth.

These self-appointed elite sat proud thinking of the truth they had uncovered that night, and the dynasty they had created. Their passion for falsification would be their never ending legacy. Until once voice sounded from the back. "Oh Dennis, you are surely the greatest and wisest of us all, for it was you who looked down the branch and found it gives tunnel vision (we must invent tunnels by the way to give that phrase meaning), I must ask you but one question, 'why?'". Dennis glanced around at all the eager faces, took a deep breath, puffing up his chest and in his most commanding voice declared to the small group of controllers, "well it's a bit of a laugh isn't it?".

Yep. I say light is not sound, so he talks about a spinning globe. Foolish deflection from the latest absurd "musing".

Again I'm asking myself, can this person really believe this? Surely this is a windup? But again I look at think why would someone persist so long and on multiple forums?

Fantastic

 

[ned_werby]

Tremendous

Was about to say the exact same thing.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

No matter what you do or where you go on Earth you will never be free of vibration and frequencies. Basically you'll never be free of friction.
You are friction and what you're in is friction.
For anything to vibrate it must...absolutely must rub together by pressure. Energy has to be applied.
How?
It always is. Everything is attached. There is no space free of vibration. There is no free space.
To even contemplate free space with no friction/vibration is to contemplate non existence.

You can't because to contemplate non existence would render you non existent and you are there thinking.

For the real thinkers out there, take a good look at everything around you and what you exist within, which is atmosphere. Feel it all around you. Understand the pressures you do feel whether more or less.
Once you accept you are always under it you'll understand you cannot escape vibration/friction and frequencies.

People like to offer zero vibrations or offer friction as a separate pressure. They're the same, as I said above.

Once you start to understand that everything is under pressure and is friction vibrating at different frequencies and different pressures to all dense mass, you'll understand that the space we're told exists...cannot exist.

So we have to ask ourselves what is it we are actually part of and what is that thing we are part of actually existing within.

We can conclude we are not on a spinning globe in a space vacuum due to what's been said, if people can understand we cannot exist without vibration and frequencies.

So what is it?
This is where we're at in trying to figure reality out from actual fantasy we are sold/told.

I offered my thought but it comes down to the thinkers to dissect the set up and go as far back to basics as possible.
Basically scramble that ready made jigsaw picture and start piecing the potential reality together.

That's to those outside who are willing to think.
Nobody needs to offer anything to a forum or to others. Just do it for yourself if it interests you.

 

[fyl2u]

It dates back to the Neolithic Revolution. That was the day people decided to stop wandering as a hunter gatherer and to sit down, farm, cook food etc. This led to more free time where people had time to think and explore ideas. For some it was how to plough a field using tools and animals, rather than by hand. Developments like this increased food yields dramatically. With others building barns as winter stores, people knew they had enough food to see them through. They had never been able to gather enough food to even consider storing it before and many would die out in winter.

A small group of what was back in the day, tribesmen, started looking for the answers to life, the universe and everything. They looked at the resources they had at their disposal and what they could make of them. Being in a wooded area, sticks were in abundance. One group rubbed two together and discovered everything about light, sound, heat, friction, mayonnaise, vibration, molecules, reflection and human senses. One of the others had picked a tree with a soft inner core, which was easily hollowed out. He looked through this hollowed branch he had created and declared upon to his peers of great thinkers "fuck me lads, this place we live is canny flat like".

This news shocked some, but others knowingly nodded, being what they expected all the long. "We have discovered great things tonight" they agreed, "but the masses must never know the real truth. Others will come and try to gain understanding. They will want to go on and build great machines, beyond the sophistication of the plough that Jeff is working on. This work must continue, and although great things they will achieve, they will all be built on a basis of complete misunderstanding of everything. Only our sons and their sons will know the truth.". Many applauded and agreed that they would indeed become the bastions of great truth. Not only must they protect it, but agree that until the end of time, their descendents would push out a fake narrative, falsify data and if at some point other settled communities and ruling hierarchy sprung up, they would induct them into their pact to make sure that nobody in all of biscuit land would uncover the truth.

These self-appointed elite sat proud thinking of the truth they had uncovered that night, and the dynasty they had created. Their passion for falsification would be their never ending legacy. Until once voice sounded from the back. "Oh Dennis, you are surely the greatest and wisest of us all, for it was you who looked down the branch and found it gives tunnel vision (we must invent tunnels by the way to give that phrase meaning), I must ask you but one question, 'why?'". Dennis glanced around at all the eager faces, took a deep breath, puffing up his chest and in his most commanding voice declared to the small group of controllers, "well it's a bit of a laugh isn't it?".

Yep. I say light is not sound, so he talks about a spinning globe. Foolish deflection from the latest absurd "musing".

Again I'm asking myself, can this person really believe this? Surely this is a windup? But again I look at think why would someone persist so long and on multiple forums?

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No matter what you do or where you go on Earth you will never be free of vibration and frequencies. Basically you'll never be free of friction.
You are friction and what you're in is friction.
For anything to vibrate it must...absolutely must rub together by pressure. Energy has to be applied.
How?
It always is. Everything is attached. There is no space free of vibration. There is no free space.
To even contemplate free space with no friction/vibration is to contemplate non existence.

You can't because to contemplate non existence would render you non existent and you are there thinking.

For the real thinkers out there, take a good look at everything around you and what you exist within, which is atmosphere. Feel it all around you. Understand the pressures you do feel whether more or less.
Once you accept you are always under it you'll understand you cannot escape vibration/friction and frequencies.

People like to offer zero vibrations or offer friction as a separate pressure. They're the same, as I said above.

Once you start to understand that everything is under pressure and is friction vibrating at different frequencies and different pressures to all dense mass, you'll understand that the space we're told exists...cannot exist.

So we have to ask ourselves what is it we are actually part of and what is that thing we are part of actually existing within.

We can conclude we are not on a spinning globe in a space vacuum due to what's been said, if people can understand we cannot exist without vibration and frequencies.

So what is it?
This is where we're at in trying to figure reality out from actual fantasy we are sold/told.

I offered my thought but it comes down to the thinkers to dissect the set up and go as far back to basics as possible.
Basically scramble that ready made jigsaw picture and start piecing the potential reality together.

That's to those outside who are willing to think.
Nobody needs to offer anything to a forum or to others. Just do it for yourself if it interests you.

Logon or register to see this image

 

[taipeisafc]

No matter what you do or where you go on Earth you will never be free of vibration and frequencies. Basically you'll never be free of friction.
You are friction and what you're in is friction.
For anything to vibrate it must...absolutely must rub together by pressure. Energy has to be applied.
How?
It always is. Everything is attached. There is no space free of vibration. There is no free space.
To even contemplate free space with no friction/vibration is to contemplate non existence.

You can't because to contemplate non existence would render you non existent and you are there thinking.

For the real thinkers out there, take a good look at everything around you and what you exist within, which is atmosphere. Feel it all around you. Understand the pressures you do feel whether more or less.
Once you accept you are always under it you'll understand you cannot escape vibration/friction and frequencies.

People like to offer zero vibrations or offer friction as a separate pressure. They're the same, as I said above.

Once you start to understand that everything is under pressure and is friction vibrating at different frequencies and different pressures to all dense mass, you'll understand that the space we're told exists...cannot exist.

So we have to ask ourselves what is it we are actually part of and what is that thing we are part of actually existing within.

We can conclude we are not on a spinning globe in a space vacuum due to what's been said, if people can understand we cannot exist without vibration and frequencies.

So what is it?
This is where we're at in trying to figure reality out from actual fantasy we are sold/told.

I offered my thought but it comes down to the thinkers to dissect the set up and go as far back to basics as possible.
Basically scramble that ready made jigsaw picture and start piecing the potential reality together.

That's to those outside who are willing to think.
Nobody needs to offer anything to a forum or to others. Just do it for yourself if it interests you.

Utter made up shite

 

[payne]

No matter what you do or where you go on Earth you will never be free of vibration and frequencies. Basically you'll never be free of friction.
You are friction and what you're in is friction.
For anything to vibrate it must...absolutely must rub together by pressure. Energy has to be applied.
How?
It always is. Everything is attached. There is no space free of vibration. There is no free space.
To even contemplate free space with no friction/vibration is to contemplate non existence.

You can't because to contemplate non existence would render you non existent and you are there thinking.

For the real thinkers out there, take a good look at everything around you and what you exist within, which is atmosphere. Feel it all around you. Understand the pressures you do feel whether more or less.
Once you accept you are always under it you'll understand you cannot escape vibration/friction and frequencies.

People like to offer zero vibrations or offer friction as a separate pressure. They're the same, as I said above.

Once you start to understand that everything is under pressure and is friction vibrating at different frequencies and different pressures to all dense mass, you'll understand that the space we're told exists...cannot exist.

So we have to ask ourselves what is it we are actually part of and what is that thing we are part of actually existing within.

We can conclude we are not on a spinning globe in a space vacuum due to what's been said, if people can understand we cannot exist without vibration and frequencies.

So what is it?
This is where we're at in trying to figure reality out from actual fantasy we are sold/told.

I offered my thought but it comes down to the thinkers to dissect the set up and go as far back to basics as possible.
Basically scramble that ready made jigsaw picture and start piecing the potential reality together.

That's to those outside who are willing to think.
Nobody needs to offer anything to a forum or to others. Just do it for yourself if it interests you.

You think everything is wrong. You think you're smarter than every person alive and who have lived. You believe you are an expert on every subject and know more than people who study specific disciplines day in, day out. People who design technologies day in day out you believe you are smarter than and understand their job better than they do. You don't even trust anyone on here for example who explains their own field of expertise/job, even when it's nowhere near talking about the shape of the planet. You have reinvented every field of science but will not provide any evidence.

Either you're the most paranoid brainwashed man alive who actually believes he's the smartest man alive. The 7 billion are all brainwashed or you are a pathological liar.

It's obvious which two are probably true.

I mean come off it. Do you actually think you understand more about all scientific fields than every other human?

 

[legend7]

No matter what you do or where you go on Earth you will never be free of vibration and frequencies. Basically you'll never be free of friction.
You are friction and what you're in is friction.
For anything to vibrate it must...absolutely must rub together by pressure. Energy has to be applied.
How?
It always is. Everything is attached. There is no space free of vibration. There is no free space.
To even contemplate free space with no friction/vibration is to contemplate non existence.

You can't because to contemplate non existence would render you non existent and you are there thinking.

For the real thinkers out there, take a good look at everything around you and what you exist within, which is atmosphere. Feel it all around you. Understand the pressures you do feel whether more or less.
Once you accept you are always under it you'll understand you cannot escape vibration/friction and frequencies.

People like to offer zero vibrations or offer friction as a separate pressure. They're the same, as I said above.

Once you start to understand that everything is under pressure and is friction vibrating at different frequencies and different pressures to all dense mass, you'll understand that the space we're told exists...cannot exist.

So we have to ask ourselves what is it we are actually part of and what is that thing we are part of actually existing within.

We can conclude we are not on a spinning globe in a space vacuum due to what's been said, if people can understand we cannot exist without vibration and frequencies.

So what is it?
This is where we're at in trying to figure reality out from actual fantasy we are sold/told.

I offered my thought but it comes down to the thinkers to dissect the set up and go as far back to basics as possible.
Basically scramble that ready made jigsaw picture and start piecing the potential reality together.

That's to those outside who are willing to think.
Nobody needs to offer anything to a forum or to others. Just do it for yourself if it interests you.

I conclude you are not part of this world

It dates back to the Neolithic Revolution. That was the day people decided to stop wandering as a hunter gatherer and to sit down, farm, cook food etc. This led to more free time where people had time to think and explore ideas. For some it was how to plough a field using tools and animals, rather than by hand. Developments like this increased food yields dramatically. With others building barns as winter stores, people knew they had enough food to see them through. They had never been able to gather enough food to even consider storing it before and many would die out in winter.

A small group of what was back in the day, tribesmen, started looking for the answers to life, the universe and everything. They looked at the resources they had at their disposal and what they could make of them. Being in a wooded area, sticks were in abundance. One group rubbed two together and discovered everything about light, sound, heat, friction, mayonnaise, vibration, molecules, reflection and human senses. One of the others had picked a tree with a soft inner core, which was easily hollowed out. He looked through this hollowed branch he had created and declared upon to his peers of great thinkers "fuck me lads, this place we live is canny flat like".

This news shocked some, but others knowingly nodded, being what they expected all the long. "We have discovered great things tonight" they agreed, "but the masses must never know the real truth. Others will come and try to gain understanding. They will want to go on and build great machines, beyond the sophistication of the plough that Jeff is working on. This work must continue, and although great things they will achieve, they will all be built on a basis of complete misunderstanding of everything. Only our sons and their sons will know the truth.". Many applauded and agreed that they would indeed become the bastions of great truth. Not only must they protect it, but agree that until the end of time, their descendents would push out a fake narrative, falsify data and if at some point other settled communities and ruling hierarchy sprung up, they would induct them into their pact to make sure that nobody in all of biscuit land would uncover the truth.

These self-appointed elite sat proud thinking of the truth they had uncovered that night, and the dynasty they had created. Their passion for falsification would be their never ending legacy. Until once voice sounded from the back. "Oh Dennis, you are surely the greatest and wisest of us all, for it was you who looked down the branch and found it gives tunnel vision (we must invent tunnels by the way to give that phrase meaning), I must ask you but one question, 'why?'". Dennis glanced around at all the eager faces, took a deep breath, puffing up his chest and in his most commanding voice declared to the small group of controllers, "well it's a bit of a laugh isn't it?".

Yep. I say light is not sound, so he talks about a spinning globe. Foolish deflection from the latest absurd "musing".

Again I'm asking myself, can this person really believe this? Surely this is a windup? But again I look at think why would someone persist so long and on multiple forums?

Thoroughly enjoyed that fella