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PSR whinging

scott934 said:
In the long run, club's with the biggest financial muscle will be on top yes, PSR restricts that if anything though.

If there was no PSR then everything would be Newcastle and Man City, they'd win every trophy. And more club's would be in the shit desparately trying to keep up with them.
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THIS!
 

On being promoted , it seems to me it doesnt bite you until year 3 ( I could be wrong)......if that is the case is, it not worth taking the hit of a points deduction in exchange for having a enhanced squad, that can stave off relegation in those precarious years.
 
Behind Enemy Lines said:
There definitely has to be limits on spending but PSR is a bit shit. I particularly don’t like how it incentivises clubs to sell homegrown players. Not sure what the solution is really.
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It only does that if you don't consider your spending elsewhere. Clubs shouldn't be spending most of their money on players they can't later make money on. We're lucky as PL clubs to have resources that bigger clubs in other countries don't have.
 
Select coaches said:
But the rules aren’t level, there is not a hope in hell that anyone can break into the rich 5 clubs long term.
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They are level.
Long term is the only way a club CAN break into the elite long term. Build a bigger stadium, get bigger crowds, sell more merch, buy better, sell better, pick up more fans, extend the new stadium, play better football that tv wants to show more etc etc etc. It may take 20-30yrs of sustained growth and success to do but it can be done.
Problem is yer modern owners so far have nivver hung around long enough once they realise how long the process will be. Brighton and Brentford’s owners have worked miracles but they’re hamstrung by their stadium size and difficulties and they’re lifelong fans.
The off the pitch route to the top is being more refined and obvious since the early 90s advent of football resurgence. It’s now patently obvious to all in football that out of town stadiums aren’t good for a clubs long term future frinstance. Multi use stadiums are essential etc. Data, DOFs, HCs buy low, sell high etcetc.

We’ve the stadium, hopefully the room around it, owners in it long term fingers crossed, an enriching good buy/sell policy etcetc. A lot of clubs have some of those in place but most don’t/can’t. Geography can hopefully be overcome.

I’ve been pessimistic about SAFC since being a bairn in the late 60s. I’m more optimistic than I’ve ever been atm.
 
I did see one of the unwashed bleating on about the only reason we won at the weekend was because we’ve spent a lot of money! 😂 Conveniently forgetting the fact that they have probably spent more in the last few years than we have in the last 20.
 
PitYacker said:
I did see one of the unwashed bleating on about the only reason we won at the weekend was because we’ve spent a lot of money! 😂 Conveniently forgetting the fact that they have probably spent more in the last few years than we have in the last 20.
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Don't remember this being a problem for them when their £300M team turned over our squad bought for some Trevor Francis tracksuits in the cup.
 
riffraff said:
They are level.
Long term is the only way a club CAN break into the elite long term. Build a bigger stadium, get bigger crowds, sell more merch, buy better, sell better, pick up more fans, extend the new stadium, play better football that tv wants to show more etc etc etc. It may take 20-30yrs of sustained growth and success to do but it can be done.
Problem is yer modern owners so far have nivver hung around long enough once they realise how long the process will be. Brighton and Brentford’s owners have worked miracles but they’re hamstrung by their stadium size and difficulties and they’re lifelong fans.
The off the pitch route to the top is being more refined and obvious since the early 90s advent of football resurgence. It’s now patently obvious to all in football that out of town stadiums aren’t good for a clubs long term future frinstance. Multi use stadiums are essential etc. Data, DOFs, HCs buy low, sell high etcetc.

We’ve the stadium, hopefully the room around it, owners in it long term fingers crossed, an enriching good buy/sell policy etcetc. A lot of clubs have some of those in place but most don’t/can’t. Geography can hopefully be overcome.

I’ve been pessimistic about SAFC since being a bairn in the late 60s. I’m more optimistic than I’ve ever been atm.
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VERY well written and completely true! 👏👏👏👏
 
Georgewhitt said:
🤣🤣🤣
And having an opinion is a good thing. More people should try it.

But when that opinion has been brutally proven to be wrong, most reasonable people would think, "Actually, I could be wrong here" 🤣🤣🤣
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I don’t think opinions can be wrong.

Anyway, that’s the end of my contribution to this thread.
 
Select coaches said:
As already explained Man U have been really badly run. Spurs never do anything.

The top 4/5 are untouchable. The rest of the league are staying up comfortably, that’s why everyone is praying that at least one promoted team stays up.

There is not a hope that anyone breaks into to the top 4 on a regular basis.

Man U will be back up there in a couple of seasons.
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4th, 5th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 5th, 3rd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 7th, 4th, 8th, 5th, 17th

add a Champions League final to that and the UEFA League win last year. Let's hope we 'never do anything' in the near future.

I sort of agree that the Premier League is a bit of a closed shop but just letting everyone spend whatever is not the answer. You'll just end up with a top 7 or 8 which no one else can break into. Salary/spending cap is the better option. For all the issues with the major sports leagues in the US they at least try to level the playing field.
 
I do disagree with it like tbh

Man Utd can spend another 200 million just becuase they are Man Utd? Have the worst season in ageneration, but nobody else is allowed.

I don't get it myself.

Its a free market.
1more said:
I actually don't even think the Saudi's have an appetite to buy success there anyway. They just don't seem massively interested in them, more of a passive interest.
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It is hard to call really like, I think the stadium stuff will reveal a lot.

I do think Howe is the one holding it all together like, he has done a very good job it has to be said.
 
Qwerty said:
If it bites us in the arse in a few years time we'll be full of hell.
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This might be hubris, but I think the club is ran too well. We were promoted in profit. Most clubs in the championship operate at over 100% wage to turnover. Our wage budget was the 16th largest in the league. Our squad that got us up cost £16m, then we sold a player from that squad for double that.

It might look like we’re spending heavy but I truly believe within 3 years we’ll have sold two or three players that we’ve brought in this window, and the profit from those sale will pay off the rest of our business on the books for this summer.

Fans complaining about spending regulations have pretty short memories. There have been multiple premier league clubs in the past 25 years who’ve almost gone to the wall because they’ve aimed for the stars and missed.
 
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