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Protest At The Man United Game

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haway said:
Yeah. It's the first attempt and it's taking a while to actually reach all the fans interested. My guess is the first effort won't be that many people, but the further our club falls apart the more and more people who will get onboard. It's all about baby steps - we won't go from apathy to full on protest overnight.


He's leading us to administration man :lol:
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So would any of the protest go to the players? As they come out near there don't they?
 

haway said:
Ok.


My view is that letting the club know the fury of the fans could be the rocket up their arse which makes them realise they need to act quick.

Genuine question - what would you suggest? You're one of the most sensible posters on here, and I think we all agree (?) that sitting back doing nothing isn't ideal. How can we send the message to the club that the fans won't stand by forever if they're intent on self destruction?
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Why would Short, or the club, be intent on self destruction?
 
Reiver said:
The sale, which took around 2 years, was negotiated and agreed well before the protests.
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Source?

Dredd said:
So would any of the protest go to the players? As they come out near there don't they?
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Based on what happened during the Murray protests they kept the players in the ground til after the fans had left. Imo it would be inappropriate for anyone to do anything which could be seen as aggressive.
 
haway said:
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Your 'source' is just a haphazard article by Sky which gives absolutely no details and doesn't suggest, in any way, that the protests had any effect on the sale.

So, are you saying the club was sold, after the protests, as a direct result or not?
 
Scotlands number 9 said:
Something needs doing like. This is just f***ing embarrassing what's going on and if people are happy to sit back and let it happen fair enough. Might not change owt but at least we get our thoughts recognised for once.
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I appreciate the sentiment mate and understand the frustration and the need to do something but the media will just make us out to be fickle arses and Short will not be affected at all. We are the pawns in all of this and cant change it.
 
Reiver said:
Your 'source' is just a haphazard article by Sky which gives absolutely no details and doesn't suggest, in any way, that the protests had any effect on the sale.

So, are you saying the club was sold, after the protests, as a direct result or not?
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I said they were sold shortly after the protests. As in the protests happened and then shortly after they were sold. I never said that protests caused the sale. The only person who knows that is Lerner. What I said is that they were sold shortly after the protests. That is true. That is a fact. That is what happened. Now please give me your source on the deal being negotiated 2 years before the sale went through, thanks x

Chewit said:
I appreciate the sentiment mate and understand the frustration and the need to do something but the media will just make us out to be fickle arses and Short will not be affected at all. We are the pawns in all of this and cant change it.
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How will they make us out to be fickle arses? If anything it's more embarrassing that we all seemed resigned to relegation, doing nothing but slumping off when 2 0 down in the 75th minute. And tbh I don't care what the media think anyway, I care about what's good for SAFC. If some cockney hack writes a sarky article about us I'll sleep fine.
 
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Swinny14 said:
Right here is our problem.

People calling people fannys for wanting to protest about their club been destroyed and wanting change.

Seriously people why are you so happy to sit back and let everything continue going to shit, are you seriously content with everything that's going on
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The only tool in your locker....the only weapon in your armoury is not to go. The club knows it can rely on your passion...wether its roaring the lads on or protesting its the same passion. Apathy is the biggest threat to the club and I think a lot lot more people are just going to stop going rather than protest
 
haway said:
I said they were sold shortly after the protests. As in the protests happened and then shortly after they were sold. I never said that protests caused the sale. The only person who knows that is Lerner. What I said is that they were sold shortly after the protests. That is true. That is a fact. That is what happened. Now please give me your source on the deal being negotiated 2 years before the sale went through, thanks x



How will they make us out to be fickle arses? If anything it's more embarrassing that we all seemed resigned to relegation, doing nothing but slumping off when 2 0 down in the 75th minute. And tbh I don't care what the media think anyway, I care about what's good for SAFC. If some cockney hack writes a sarky article about us I'll sleep fine.
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Exactly.

You're the second person who's claimed I said the sale was negotiated 2 years before the sale ..... I didn't.

I suggest you actually read what I said.
 
Reiver said:
Exactly .........
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What do you mean exactly? I never said that. I was pointing out to someone who said that Villa fans had protested and yet they still had the same owner that that claim is incorrect. You then came up with your own unsubstantiated claim. I give up.
 
haway said:
What do you mean exactly? I never said that. I was pointing out to someone who said that Villa fans had protested and yet they still had the same owner that that claim is incorrect. You then came up with your own unsubstantiated claim. I give up.
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Yes, that's your problem ..... that's why you won't be protesting on Sunday as you didn't the last time.

You replied to @Elephant and implied that the protests had an effect on the subsequent sale.

"I think the fans of Charlton,Blackpool,Coventry,Villa,Blackburn,Newcastle,Leeds have all had protests about their owners. They're all still there. Many Arsenal fans want Wenger out he's still there.
I won't be doing anything in regards to protests and hopefully Short leaves."

@haway "If you don't know what you're talking about then it's best not to comment. Villa were sold shortly after protests for example."
 
Chewit said:
I appreciate the sentiment mate and understand the frustration and the need to do something but the media will just make us out to be fickle arses and Short will not be affected at all. We are the pawns in all of this and cant change it.
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Fuck the media, they've had nowt good to say about us for years. They don't appreciate the shite we've been served up, they just think this is what we should expect.

You're right though, it won't force shorts hand or have much effect. It will however be better than us sitting or standing there doing nowt and just showing some sort of submissive acceptance to what's going on.

The best thing though is for people to vote with their feet, just make attendances plummet and stay away from the stadium until there's change. when there's 15,000 there at the first few home games next season that will get everyone talking.
 
A protest? Whatever you say they already know so doing a protest might look bad for a potential new owner. Think about what your doing. Not 1 person in the club is happy with the situation including fans but we need to do our best as supporters to make the club look attractive as possible for the sake of investment and a new owner, who hopefully has more money than sense we don't want some skint millionaire buying the club.
 
niceonemarra said:
A protest? Whatever you say they already know so doing a protest might look bad for a potential new owner. Think about what your doing. Not 1 person in the club is happy with the situation including fans but we need to do our best as supporters to make the club look attractive as possible for the sake of investment and a new owner, who hopefully has more money than sense we don't want some skint millionaire buying the club.
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Like it looked bad for Liverpool and Villa?

Moyes seems oblivious to be fair.

It's been said before, some have excuses for literally everything.

Scotlands number 9 said:
Fuck the media, they've had nowt good to say about us for years. They don't appreciate the shite we've been served up, they just think this is what we should expect.

You're right though, it won't force shorts hand or have much effect. It will however be better than us sitting or standing there doing nowt and just showing some sort of submissive acceptance to what's going on.

The best thing though is for people to vote with their feet, just make attendances plummet and stay away from the stadium until there's change. when there's 15,000 there at the first few home games next season that will get everyone talking.
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Spot on.
 
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