People who aren't renewing

[Spike]

I haven’t had a season ticket for years it’s shite

 

[JAR7391]

I've thought about it quite a bit but I won't be renewing. I've only been to the Crewe game from the last 5 home games and I had to force myself to go to that. I won't be there today either. Just don't want to go anymore, don't enjoy it and don't feel connected to the club in the same way that I used to. Going became a habit long ago and I need to shake it.

It's not just about losing games either, I can deal with that, we've been shit for years. It's about the absolute state of the place and how badly it's been managed. The entire club is on it's knees and I can't shake that feeling that we're finished in terms of we'll never rise again like we have in the past. Everything is done on a shoestring, whilst talking about grand 5 or 10 year plans and honestly it's embarrasing. Get promoted, then talk about the long term. The succession of poor managerial choices which we all knew would never work at the time. Joke recruitment strategies over and over again. We'll need another rebuild this summer again as theres 13 players out of contract, and guess what, it will be yet another manager bringing in his own players, only to be sacked again come October time. We won't make the play offs, and then even if we did we all know we'd bottle it anyway. The atmosphere is poor home and away (bar the odd away game). Even the Wembley visits we've had we've been outsung on both occasions and I never thought I would ever say that.

Then you've got the ownership itself. A group who used our own money to buy the club, which still hasn't been paid back and they're still involved with the club. Then they were "bought out" by a lad whos lied to us for a year and hid the fact that the previous owners were still involved. He didn't want to reveal the share split as he knew what was going to happen if he did. This comes over Ellis Short who splurged shit tons of money on the club, entrusting it in safe hands such as Steve Bruce, Di Fanti and Lee Congerton. When was the last time we had someone who knew football on the board? Because the way we've been ran is utterly staggering. I'm involved in football as an academy coach and don't pretend to know how to run a club top to bottom but by christ I could have done a better job and so could most people who have the slightest knowledge in how a club should be ran. The money wasted, the lack of oversight, the lies, hiding things from fans, f***ing off to Florida when Short got sick and letting us rot. Thats just a few of the reasons, the list goes on but I can't be bothered to type it all out.

I don't even take pride in our attendances anymore. I laugh at the people who turn up week in week out now and don't understand why anyone would do it. Deep down I obviously love the club but not liked I used to. It doesn't hurt when we lose, I laugh when I get a notification saying we've went behind, usually whilst i'm doing something more enjoyable with my time.

 

[Bear Heed]

And unfortunately exactly what the Chancers are milking

The milk is curdled and there's little chance of cream.

This is the D&M position imo.

"The Sunk Cost Fallacy describes our tendency to follow through on an endeavor if we have already invested time, effort, or money into it, whether or not the current costs outweigh the benefits."

 

[Gelan]

What a very simplistic and silly way of looking at things.

How silly to have to point out your dissapointment of one individuals viewpoint...it wasn't a demand with a whipping in store if you didn't obey.

I'm nobody, so try not to let my posts get to you

 

[Bear Heed]

I've thought about it quite a bit but I won't be renewing. I've only been to the Crewe game from the last 5 home games and I had to force myself to go to that. I won't be there today either. Just don't want to go anymore, don't enjoy it and don't feel connected to the club in the same way that I used to. Going became a habit long ago and I need to shake it.

It's not just about losing games either, I can deal with that, we've been shit for years. It's about the absolute state of the place and how badly it's been managed. The entire club is on it's knees and I can't shake that feeling that we're finished in terms of we'll never rise again like we have in the past. Everything is done on a shoestring, whilst talking about grand 5 or 10 year plans and honestly it's embarrasing. Get promoted, then talk about the long term. The succession of poor managerial choices which we all knew would never work at the time. Joke recruitment strategies over and over again. We'll need another rebuild this summer again as theres 13 players out of contract, and guess what, it will be yet another manager bringing in his own players, only to be sacked again come October time. We won't make the play offs, and then even if we did we all know we'd bottle it anyway. The atmosphere is poor home and away (bar the odd away game). Even the Wembley visits we've had we've been outsung on both occasions and I never thought I would ever say that.

Then you've got the ownership itself. A group who used our own money to buy the club, which still hasn't been paid back and they're still involved with the club. Then they were "bought out" by a lad whos lied to us for a year and hid the fact that the previous owners were still involved. He didn't want to reveal the share split as he knew what was going to happen if he did. This comes over Ellis Short who splurged shit tons of money on the club, entrusting it in safe hands such as Steve Bruce, Di Fanti and Lee Congerton. When was the last time we had someone who knew football on the board? Because the way we've been ran is utterly staggering. I'm involved in football as an academy coach and don't pretend to know how to run a club top to bottom but by christ I could have done a better job and so could most people who have the slightest knowledge in how a club should be ran. The money wasted, the lack of oversight, the lies, hiding things from fans, f***ing off to Florida when Short got sick and letting us rot. Thats just a few of the reasons, the list goes on but I can't be bothered to type it all out.

I don't even take pride in our attendances anymore. I laugh at the people who turn up week in week out now and don't understand why anyone would do it. Deep down I obviously love the club but not liked I used to. It doesn't hurt when we lose, I laugh when I get a notification saying we've went behind, usually whilst i'm doing something more enjoyable with my time.

"I laugh at the people who turn up."

You're right mate, time you stopped going.

I'd stop posting as well if you're that disinterested.

Surely you have better things to do.

 

[viccarlton]

I don't even take pride in our attendances anymore. I laugh at the people who turn up week in week out now and don't understand why anyone would do it. Deep down I obviously love the club but not liked I used to. It doesn't hurt when we lose, I laugh when I get a notification saying we've went behind, usually whilst i'm doing something more enjoyable with my time.

I laugh at those that expound the reasons that they don’t care yet still have match notifications pop up on their phone

 

[Ashley In!!]

To those who think they have had enough, and don't renew their SC I get that.
But if we don't get 23,000 SC next season in Div 1, the club will be sold again, or we could go bang.
We can not afford another season down here, Derby aware, that's what will happen. IMHO

KLD new thread...

Are most of the fans renewing the season cards then being as KLD said very little at that last meeting as regards the key points that we were fuming about? He will be pleased that its all died down for now. Meanwhile the scum are still shareholders, Speakman and his crew remain, and nothing...

www.readytogo.net

Two weeks ago you were urging people not to renew to force KLD out.

 

[Bear Heed]

I laugh at those that expound the reasons that they don’t care yet still have match notifications pop up on their phone

It puzzles me that grievances with the club paused while we were top of the league.

I wonder if the Wembley ticket arrangements would have a similar effect.

I laugh at those that expound the reasons that they don’t care yet still have match notifications pop up on their phone

" It doesn't hurt when we lose, I laugh when I get a notification saying we've went behind, usually whilst i'm doing something more enjoyable with my time."

So enjoyable that they're checking their phone for the scores

 

[deleted user 785]

How silly to have to point out your dissapointment of one individuals viewpoint...it wasn't a demand with a whipping in store if you didn't obey.

I'm nobody, so try not to let my posts get to you

Wtf are you gibbering on about? You made a silly point, I pointed that out.

 

[Safc88]

I think that misses the point.

There are the “direct debit trap” element as you will have observed how in the modern economy Chancers looove to sign you up on a direct debit knowing how many people forget to cancel/ they can make it bloody hard to cancel once a consumer wants out

The current owners of our club being exactly these sort of a**ehole Chancers you can be sure they will be pushing Direct Debits for all they are worth.

Luckily I am not on direct debit

Don’t need their cheap “early bird” discount

And intend to give it some long hard thought

I want these Chancers out of the club and reckon denying them any cash necessary is one way to do that

Push them on to their knees so they have to accept the lowest price possible - ideally an offer from a fans trust but I don’t underestimate the challenge in doing that

Meanwhile they have asset stripped the squad to the point that we currently have one fit striker going in to the run offs, automatics are beyond us with their nonsensical charade of sacking the manager and signing a retired striker with 8 minutes on the pitch this season and following this up with selling Kimpioka WITHOUT any sign of paying for a replacement striker.

So I’m going to watch how we get on for the rest of the season and then make a decision once I see which league we are playing in and how much the Chancers invest in the squad in the summer window.

Fail in the play offs or fail to get into the play offs and then sell Stewart/Neil/Patterson/ONein and they can whistle for my money

Gloves are off

09?

If I lived in or near Sunderland I'd purchase an ST...you either support your club or you don't.

What a ridiculous post

 

[Gelan]

Wtf are you gibbering on about? You made a silly point, I pointed that out.

Why so rude? I'm really fab and laid back

09?

What a ridiculous post

I usually bypass ridiculous posts...also in many cases "ridiculous" is subjective, unless of course it causes mental or physical harm, which would take a great stretch of the immagination.

That one post doesn't colour me anything, nor your post you.

Everyone should work to cope with others harmless opinions, otherwise where are we as a society?

Chill and think good thoughts

 

[ir35]

I swore I finally wouldn’t ,but I have. Probably regret it, again.

 

[Mowgli]

To those who think they have had enough, and don't renew their SC I get that.
But if we don't get 23,000 SC next season in Div 1, the club will be sold again, or we could go bang.
We can not afford another season down here, Derby aware, that's what will happen. IMHO

Stop talking absolute horseshit Bob, you're a disgrace for a supposed fan.

How will the club go bang? Will KLD and madrox just write off the money they've put into buying the club like?

 

[Deleted member 31333]

To those who think they have had enough, and don't renew their SC I get that.
But if we don't get 23,000 SC next season in Div 1, the club will be sold again, or we could go bang.
We can not afford another season down here, Derby aware, that's what will happen. IMHO

Hopefully we are sold

I've thought about it quite a bit but I won't be renewing. I've only been to the Crewe game from the last 5 home games and I had to force myself to go to that. I won't be there today either. Just don't want to go anymore, don't enjoy it and don't feel connected to the club in the same way that I used to. Going became a habit long ago and I need to shake it.

It's not just about losing games either, I can deal with that, we've been shit for years. It's about the absolute state of the place and how badly it's been managed. The entire club is on it's knees and I can't shake that feeling that we're finished in terms of we'll never rise again like we have in the past. Everything is done on a shoestring, whilst talking about grand 5 or 10 year plans and honestly it's embarrasing. Get promoted, then talk about the long term. The succession of poor managerial choices which we all knew would never work at the time. Joke recruitment strategies over and over again. We'll need another rebuild this summer again as theres 13 players out of contract, and guess what, it will be yet another manager bringing in his own players, only to be sacked again come October time. We won't make the play offs, and then even if we did we all know we'd bottle it anyway. The atmosphere is poor home and away (bar the odd away game). Even the Wembley visits we've had we've been outsung on both occasions and I never thought I would ever say that.

Then you've got the ownership itself. A group who used our own money to buy the club, which still hasn't been paid back and they're still involved with the club. Then they were "bought out" by a lad whos lied to us for a year and hid the fact that the previous owners were still involved. He didn't want to reveal the share split as he knew what was going to happen if he did. This comes over Ellis Short who splurged shit tons of money on the club, entrusting it in safe hands such as Steve Bruce, Di Fanti and Lee Congerton. When was the last time we had someone who knew football on the board? Because the way we've been ran is utterly staggering. I'm involved in football as an academy coach and don't pretend to know how to run a club top to bottom but by christ I could have done a better job and so could most people who have the slightest knowledge in how a club should be ran. The money wasted, the lack of oversight, the lies, hiding things from fans, f***ing off to Florida when Short got sick and letting us rot. Thats just a few of the reasons, the list goes on but I can't be bothered to type it all out.

I don't even take pride in our attendances anymore. I laugh at the people who turn up week in week out now and don't understand why anyone would do it. Deep down I obviously love the club but not liked I used to. It doesn't hurt when we lose, I laugh when I get a notification saying we've went behind, usually whilst i'm doing something more enjoyable with my time.

Exactly the same as me. There’s no buzz around for the club. Even though the club is on our doorstep you wouldn’t think it. There’s no buzz for Sunderland wherever you go. Everyone is just drained and the club feels like it has next to no prescience now

 

[MADBOB THE MAKEM]

I'm puzzled about all this tbh.

I'm not sure why KLD would spend his winter traipsing around grounds like Crewe, spending money and attracting the wrath of supporters if he has no ambition.

What does he hope to get out of being at SAFC in your opinion?

He thought like the 3 Amigos did, promotion would happen this season, fingers burnt by young KLD.

Stop talking absolute horseshit Bob, you're a disgrace for a supposed fan.

How will the club go bang? Will KLD and madrox just write off the money they've put into buying the club like?

At some point in your tiny mind, look at this as a business not a fan.
Good business people don't throw very good money at a failed investment.
They sell what they can then TRY to offload the big problem.

 

[Bear Heed]

He thought like the 3 Amigos did, promotion would happen this season, fingers burnt by young KLD.

At some point in your tiny mind, look at this as a business not a fan.
Good business people don't throw very good money at a failed investment.
They sell what they can then TRY to offload the big problem.

He may well be correct, I believe he will be.

 

[MADBOB THE MAKEM]

He may well be correct, I believe he will be.

I think he will sell given a decent deal.

 

[nayrboss]

To those who think they have had enough, and don't renew their SC I get that.
But if we don't get 23,000 SC next season in Div 1, the club will be sold again, or we could go bang.
We can not afford another season down here, Derby aware, that's what will happen. IMHO

what. you think im going to renew to keep these clowns in charge ?

you big f***ing ape

 

[Bear Heed]

I think he will sell given a decent deal.

Are you saying we won't be promoted?

 

[Mowgli]

He thought like the 3 Amigos did, promotion would happen this season, fingers burnt by young KLD.

At some point in your tiny mind, look at this as a business not a fan.
Good business people don't throw very good money at a failed investment.
They sell what they can then TRY to offload the big problem.

You said go bust. Taking utter shite as per.