CatRyan
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Yes there are very good reasons, moral, judicial, fiscal, legal, ethical and common sense etc
PC Wayne Couzens pleads guilty to kidnap and rape of Sarah Everard
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monkeytassle
Striker
Ok so you're happy to transfer the responsibility then. Retribution is fine clearly.
CatRyan
Striker
Kind of.
See how it it ok for the state to put someone in prison for wrong doing but if you decide to lock someone in your basement it isn't?
It's like that.
It is one thing for a criminal to shank an evil scum bastard. Quite another for the judiciary to do it.
monkeytassle
Striker
That analogy is incorrect. It's more like two criminals locked in a basement and one decides to imprison another in a side basement. Either way you're condoning it.
Yes I understand there are laws and precedent but I am suggesting there are some cases that are outwith current boundaries. This bloke. The lads that dragged the copper to death as @Frijj said.there is clearly no place in society for these people.
Alan Partridge
Winger
And they’re incarcerated living a miserable existence and no longer part of society.
CatRyan
Striker
I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to die. I just think I deserve a better judicial system and there are all the other factors that make the death penalty a poor choice any way you cut it.
monkeytassle
Striker
I agree I am not a fan of the death sentence but in extenuating circumstances it should be an option.
It's not really just an existence though is it. He can read the news, write letters, converse, play pool, exercise, play games consoles, speak to people. His victim who trusted him implicitly as an arm of the law doesn't get to do that.
Fuck him. As I said he just a piece of flesh and bone. An extremely evil one. A piece of awful organic material capable of the worst acts. Yeah fuck him.
CatRyan
Striker
I totally understand your view but in practice it just does not work like that, nor should it.
So I do hope he has a horrible time in prison and gets beaten badly on the regular.
monkeytassle
Striker
Differing views make the world go around
CatRyan
Striker
It is the application by the state that is the issue. Just this one time it seems totally appropriate I agree but it would not just be this one time.
It is expensive and morally and ethically wrong and practically a poor choice.
So yes i too want him dead or really wishing he was dead anyway. The implementation of that by the state is more complex than whether or not this scum deserves it or not though.
Can you name any?
I can’t fathom how a reasonable person can weigh up all the information and determine that he should be allowed to exist.
Perhaps you can enlighten me.
So you want him dead you just want someone else to do the state’s dirty work?
That’s fine I guess. There’ll be a long line of people who’d jump at the chance.
Alan Partridge
Winger
I don’t strongly disagree with you. This guy is an absolute piece of shit and I don’t have a shred of sympathy for him at all. What he done, coupled with the power he abused, was one of the most heinous acts I’ve ever known.
Hopefully, his life will be nothing more than fearing someone is going to give him a hiding, or worse, and is filled with mental torture.
But state sanctioned executions are a slippery slope, where would you draw the line for it to happen or not, and there’s always the threat of condemning an innocent to death.
CatRyan
Striker
I think I've kind of covered this. It isn't about shirking responsibility but limiting the scope of the state. Death penalty costs more, is not full proof, is ethically and morally wrong, the ramifications are more profound than whether or not his man deserves it or not.
Let's not forget that the Home Secretary who would have a hand in this asked of she could kill refugees.
Mum & lover who filmed themselves torturing her son to death GUILTY of murder
A MUM and her lover have been found guilty of murdering her 15-year-old son who died after a campaign of torture. Sebastian Kalinowski died of an infection caused by “untreated complications …
www.thesun.co.uk
Another one. Possibly carve out a some sort of life for himself inside daily hot shower, shave, warm cell, eat and drink 3 meals and snacks every day, read, write, exercise, education, recreational drugs, visitors, paper romance with other fuck ups, establish himself in the prison hierarchy etc, pandered to by shrinks etc, etc.
There are no criminals who are 100% guilty marra.
I don’t disagree with you. I have argued against the death penalty on here, but it would only cost so much if it was a routine punishment.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on the morality and ethics. I don’t quite understand how you can say you’d be happy with Couzens falling victim to death by inmate violence, but not happy about the state ending his life. That does puzzle me.
We know he is guilty, guilty of the most abhorrent crime, I see no value in him being alive. It would cost nothing right now to put a bullet between his eyes.
Can you explain how he isn’t guilty?
CatRyan
Striker
Oh this case was just so horrific. I can't bear to think of it. Death penalty is too good for some.Mum & lover who filmed themselves torturing her son to death GUILTY of murder
A MUM and her lover have been found guilty of murdering her 15-year-old son who died after a campaign of torture. Sebastian Kalinowski died of an infection caused by “untreated complications …www.thesun.co.uk
Another one. Possibly carve out a some sort of life for himself inside daily hot shower, shave, warm cell, eat and drink 3 meals and snacks every day, read, write, exercise, education, recreational drugs, visitors, paper romance with other fuck ups, establish himself in the prison hierarchy etc, pandered to by shrinks etc, etc.
I'd like them tortured everyday for a very long time.
Kid spent his days in fear and agony.
Kent_Mackem
Striker
The deterrent rarely works for murder as it’s usually spur of the moment stuff.
Yer da claims JSA
Midfield
Hasn’t he got an actual whole life term?
Would class if they just kept his corpse locked up like
