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just been reading some of Luke Edwards’ replies on Twitter, this lot from up the road are absolutely ruined off this β€œtakeover”. Brainwashed, sport washed, conspiracy nuts, fantasists the lot.
 
There's a reason Jordan is a Millionaire and Wraith isn't. He talks a lot of sense and calls out bullshitters like he did with both Wraith (twice) and Staveley. She was rattled to fuck.

You can listen to Dr Zhivago for all its worth. The takeover is never going to happen with the murderers. Grumpy Old Man summed it up perfectly last night

""Irrespective of what the Mags think, the elephant in the room is that Saudi Arabia is, to all intents and purposes, an absolute monarchy. What this means is that the Sheikh and the state are effectively the same person. It's not a democracy in any sense of the word. It's therefore pretty much impossible to show that PiF (which effectively performs the same role that MSD does for Michael Dell) is in any way independent of the Saudi royal family. It really can't demonstrate that its funds are separate from KSA, as it's indistinguishable from the royal family as individuals.

And that's before we get to the BeIN piracy, as pirating PL rights is an automatic fail of the O&D test.""
Him being a successful businessman doesn't take away the truth that he's a wind up merchant on talksport, whose expressed opinions are based on getting people phoning up.

And I addressed GOM's post.

fwiw I'm probably 75% sure the takeover won't go through, I'm 100% sure it won't go through in it's current form. Either PIF need to set up a purchase vehicle to create an acceptable amount of 'distance' between the money and the state, or the Premier League will have to be happy with a club being owned by a foreign state. Neither's likely.

What's telling is that there are other 'credible offers' and if we finally get the full stop at the end of this debacle, I'd expect Ashley to sell to someone else. Which is frankly all I want. Yes there could be jokers and even worse owners, but there could also be someone like Leicester's owner, or Brentford's and I'm willing to take that gamble. Someone who'll want for more than 17th and have some interest in running a sporting institution as such and not just a billboard for his tat.
 
What's telling is that there are other 'credible offers' and if we finally get the full stop at the end of this debacle, I'd expect Ashley to sell to someone else. Which is frankly all I want. Yes there could be jokers and even worse owners, but there could also be someone like Leicester's owner, or Brentford's and I'm willing to take that gamble. Someone who'll want for more than 17th and have some interest in running a sporting institution as such and not just a billboard for his tat.

If there are "other credible offers" why isn't Ashley pursuing them? If your premiership status is in danger at the end of the season, they might not be there.

Why his determination to sell to Staveley?

Are the other offers less than PiFs? If they are, can he really call them credible? If they are equal to, why not go for them and save a lot of hassle

In the interests of transparency he should come out and detail exactly who these credible offers are from and for how much ;)
 
Maybe they realised its not needed anymore as job done without having to even submit a bid.
Yeah that's possible. Have to say that outside of Tyneside the opinion of the Saudis hasn't really improved during all this. Can't imagine the Saudis would spend Β£17m to temporarily sportswash a parochial city in the North of England... And there'd be better ways to get a lasting bump in their PR for less, like maybe not executing homosexuals, or treating women like equals... or not murdering journalists?
 
Him being a successful businessman doesn't take away the truth that he's a wind up merchant on talksport, whose expressed opinions are based on getting people phoning up.

And I addressed GOM's post.

fwiw I'm probably 75% sure the takeover won't go through, I'm 100% sure it won't go through in it's current form. Either PIF need to set up a purchase vehicle to create an acceptable amount of 'distance' between the money and the state, or the Premier League will have to be happy with a club being owned by a foreign state. Neither's likely.

What's telling is that there are other 'credible offers' and if we finally get the full stop at the end of this debacle, I'd expect Ashley to sell to someone else. Which is frankly all I want. Yes there could be jokers and even worse owners, but there could also be someone like Leicester's owner, or Brentford's and I'm willing to take that gamble. Someone who'll want for more than 17th and have some interest in running a sporting institution as such and not just a billboard for his tat.
You haven't finished 17th for years. You silly man
 
If there are "other credible offers" why isn't Ashley pursuing them? If your premiership status is in danger at the end of the season, they might not be there.

Why his determination to sell to Staveley?

Are the other offers less than PiFs? If they are, can he really call them credible? If they are equal to, why not go for them and save a lot of hassle

In the interests of transparency he should come out and detail exactly who these credible offers are from and for how much ;)
1. Dunno, probably the price, also rumours that SportsDirect wants to branch out into the middle east and having a relationship with the Crown Prince of the country would help on that front.
2. You're not wrong, but Ashley's gambled on staying up before, he'll do it again.

3. it's not Staveley, it's the Saudis.

4. They might be less, but acceptably so. e.g if he can sell for Β£340m instead of Β£350m, that's a credible bid, no?

5. He should, but he won't. The f***ing irony of Mike Ashley's legal team demanding transparency from the PL is not lost on me.
You haven't finished 17th for years. You silly man
Aiming for 17th and finishing 17th are not the same thing. C'mon, you're not that daft.

The aim is survival, where ever Newcastle finish above 18th is immaterial. He doesn't care.
 
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1. Dunno, probably the price, also rumours that SportsDirect wants to branch out into the middle east and having a relationship with the Crown Prince of the country would help on that front.
2. You're not wrong, but Ashley's gambled on staying up before, he'll do it again.

3. it's not Staveley, it's the Saudis.

4. They might be less, but acceptably so. e.g if he can sell for Β£340m instead of Β£350m, that's a credible bid, no?

5. He should, but he won't. The f***ing irony of Mike Ashley's legal team demanding transparency from the PL is not lost on me.

Aiming for 17th and finishing 17th are not the same thing. C'mon, you're not that daft.

The aim is survival, where ever Newcastle finish above 18th is immaterial. He doesn't care.
The aim, as Bruce has stated, is to finish Top 10 and have a pop at the Cups. You're not that daft surely
 
1. Dunno, probably the price, also rumours that SportsDirect wants to branch out into the middle east and having a relationship with the Crown Prince of the country would help on that front.
2. You're not wrong, but Ashley's gambled on staying up before, he'll do it again.

3. it's not Staveley, it's the Saudis.

4. They might be less, but acceptably so. e.g if he can sell for Β£340m instead of Β£350m, that's a credible bid, no?

5. He should, but he won't. The f***ing irony of Mike Ashley's legal team demanding transparency from the PL is not lost on me.

Aiming for 17th and finishing 17th are not the same thing. C'mon, you're not that daft.

The aim is survival, where ever Newcastle finish above 18th is immaterial. He doesn't care.
In fairness if your declaring the whole aim of Ashleys reign is to finish 17th to receive the TV money, the same can be said for :-

Brighton, West Ham, Aston Villa, Watford, Wolves, Palace, Southampton, Burnley, Norwich & Leeds - I’m unsure why the expectancy and clamour for Newcastle to be so much different is apparent.
 
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In fairness if your declaring the whole aim of Ashleys reign is to finish 17th to receive the TV money, the same can be said for :-

Brighton, West Ham, Aston Villa, Watford, Wolves, Palace, Southampton, Burnley, Norwich & Leeds - I’m unsure why the expectancy and clamour for Newcastle to be so much different is apparent.
they all "try"
 
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