Nissan

[Corso4life]

Headcount for stand ins wouldn’t equate to those on temp contracts. So you’ve just plucked that from nowhere.



Fair enough mate, I didn’t see your last comment about certain areas. Just saw your one about all stand ins. Shit crack for those lads like.

Some been stood up for years

 

[W4TYY]

Some been stood up for years

Awful crack mate, feel for them being stood down. Wonder what the reasoning is behind it and why just those shops.

 

[Keith S30S]

Parking at work or shop etc, plugging in, tapping your card then going about your business is slightly quicker and is much cheaper than refueling. Once a week for an average mileage/ in an average leaf (some excellent deals on these albeit the ugly sister). Everyone spends over 40 mins somewhere every week with a charger (download one of the charger map apps and be surprised how many there actually are). And if you have a drive like most do, even easier.... Although I did it without for a couple years. I understand people are used to ICE and will take longer to convert, but will have to one day as ICE fuels will not last forever, where as refuelling a car with renewable energy.... Im not a gaffer on a big salary, just a normal bloke on the lines and I'm certainly enjoying the overall cost savings.

40 minutes is quicker than 2

I work from home, shop at Asda Ryhope, for about 20-30 minutes, it hasn't got any EV chargers. I don't really go anywhere else bar my Mam's each week regularly. How do I conveniently charge up?

 

[legend73]

Ev chargers are built into street lighting shell ubitricity. No problems just challenges and for people with half a brain they can be solved. Location of the property plays a part but not a major issue

Would have to be something like virgin media have done digging up the country to stick their cables in nearly every street. Ubitricity only works when you can get a parking space and if the country is eventually going full electric it’s near impossible. Location of the property is a major issue. Only half a brain cell needed.

 

[fugitivemackem]

Would have to be something like virgin media have done digging up the country to stick their cables in nearly every street. Ubitricity only works when you can get a parking space and if the country is eventually going full electric it’s near impossible. Location of the property is a major issue. Only half a brain cell

I think you’ve missed my point the infrastructure can and is being used right now. Of course that will need to be increased and on terraced streets may be an issue. My point is there’s always a way even if the masses don’t like it. Unfortunately it’s where it’s going so crack on

 

[Nobby]

I'm a year into driving an EV and have spent less than £200 on electricity to do 8000 miles.

The dinosaurs pumping dead dinosaurs into their cars obviously struggle with maths

 

[HoxtonMackem]

Just checking in, they gone bust yet?

I give them 6 months.

 

[Whitburnmakem]

aye, your walking along minding your own business, and bosch, massive cable hits your head as old Doris forgot to plug the other end in and its fell out of the window.

What like all the sky tv and cable satellite cables trailing along the floor and phone cables ???

Personal experience has been brother in law had a Tesla and it worked great for him. Sister in law had a 3008 fully electric and had Nothing but problems with public charging. The car was shit as well but that’s by the by.

The main problem though is the massive disparity in cost. Overnight charging with the big providers is at about 7 pence per kwh. Shell ultra fast is 0.69 to 0.94 pence per kWh.

The cost difference is obscene.

But yet still massively cheaper than petrol or diesel

I think you’ve missed my point the infrastructure can and is being used right now. Of course that will need to be increased and on terraced streets may be an issue. My point is there’s always a way even if the masses don’t like it. Unfortunately it’s where it’s going so crack on

People think your have to plug your car in every time you go somewhere full charge once a week does for work

40 minutes is quicker than 2

I work from home, shop at Asda Ryhope, for about 20-30 minutes, it hasn't got any EV chargers. I don't really go anywhere else bar my Mam's each week regularly. How do I conveniently charge up?

Even McDonald’s have them now

Sorry but filling up in 2 minutes while I'm out and about like I did yesterday is way quicker and more convenient than charging an EV when you're on the road.

Pay at the pump is a doodle, filling up and paying in store is only 3 minutes.

So you can fill up in 3 minutes ? What do you drive a moped ?

Those same footpaths that 90% of the cars on the estate spend the vast majority of thier lives.Some ones even got a motorhome fully packed on the path..

Fair point.Is the way forward let folk to do it if they baby sit the cable/charger? Red triangles?

Once again lack of knowledge but fobbing it off the charger cable locks once it’s charging you can’t remove it from either end

 

[Keith S30S]

Even McDonald’s have them now

So you can fill up in 3 minutes ? What do you drive a moped ?

I take my Grandson to McDonald's maybe once every other month. I go through the drive through then go home for him to eat it there. I don't really want to hang around, why would I?

It takes about 30 seconds to put my card pin into pay at the pump. Less than a minute to stick £25-£30 in. Not sure why it would take longer? I'll time myself next time if you like

Anyone who thinks charging a EV away from home is better than filling up has a screw loose.

Fair enough make arguments about environment, cost and whatever but don't talk nonsense.

 

[ir35]

Awful crack mate, feel for them being stood down. Wonder what the reasoning is behind it and why just those shops.

Can’t speak for all shops, but on some lines they’ve ran with 5 team leaders (2 production shift team leaders, and 3 three shift team leaders). Due to the reduced volumes it’s been deemed the 2 production team leaders aren’t required and the three shift can cover the workload. For context many lines have only ever ran with 3 three shift team leaders.

 

[MonkeyLove]

What like all the sky tv and cable satellite cables trailing along the floor and phone cables ???

But yet still massively cheaper than petrol or diesel

People think your have to plug your car in every time you go somewhere full charge once a week does for work

Even McDonald’s have them now

So you can fill up in 3 minutes ? What do you drive a moped ?

Once again lack of knowledge but fobbing it off the charger cable locks once it’s charging you can’t remove it from either end

Public charging at garages and service stations isn’t cheaper than petrol or diesel. That’s the problem.

Shell say 69-94 pence per kWh. Even the better performing EVs at the lower price of that you are looking at £4.50 for 40 miles. At current oil prices that’s probably about the same or fractionally more then petrol or diesel.

I’m not anti EV. I think they have great potential. If you can charge overnight on cheap tariff at home or have free or nominal charging at work.

But the public infrastructure is poor and very expensive.

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[JD73]

Infrastructure nowhere near in place . They've tried to hit the ground running from day 1/2 . Never going to happen . But blame Has to be at governments door as well . With there eco friendly green targets . Government has to help in any way it can . To get over these troubled times . Not just for nissan but whole automotive industry. Nmuk will survive in one shape or form . As factory set up second to none . And brilliant hard working workforce. Which is missed by no one in the industry!!,

 

[Boz33]

Public charging at garages and service stations isn’t cheaper than petrol or diesel. That’s the problem.

Shell say 69-94 pence per kWh. Even the better performing EVs at the lower price of that you are looking at £4.50 for 40 miles. At current oil prices that’s probably about the same or fractionally more then petrol or diesel.

I’m not anti EV. I think they have great potential. If you can charge overnight on cheap tariff at home or have free or nominal charging at work.

But the public infrastructure is poor and very expensive.

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Thats gonna be the key, public charging, if people are gonna be rinsed for charging or if there aren't enough easily available charging points a lot just won't get on board until they have to.
Its fine saying there's plenty charging points atm, but once everyone has to adopt, those localised public charge points become a lot scarcer.
Govt need to get a plan together with business to start making them plentiful everywhere, and also get some sort of handling on charging fees as many will not have access to home charging so will be at the mercy of whatever the charger owners want to shaft them for.

There will be a lot of charging gets done at work places so may well become a bit of a lottery on what the price is there as companies aren't gonna provide free charging for all their employees

 

[fugitivemackem]

Infrastructure nowhere near in place . They've tried to hit the ground running from day 1/2 . Never going to happen . But blame Has to be at governments door as well . With there eco friendly green targets . Government has to help in any way it can . To get over these troubled times . Not just for nissan but whole automotive industry. Nmuk will survive in one shape or form . As factory set up second to none . And brilliant hard working workforce. Which is missed by no one in the industry!!,

Farmers are well thought of hard working industry up at 3/4 am work u til it’s dark etc etc but belive me this labour government will has and will continue to shaft companies etc. What should have happened is Nissan and the likes should have said from day one we can’t facilitate this. That’s the responsibility of the top bosses to have the foresight to say this isn’t doable and they haven’t and that could be detrimental to its future. If you agree to deliver you have to deliver. No one else gets away with excuses if you say you can then do it, if not suffer the consequences. I for one think Nissan is crucial to the area but senior management have to be looked at as to why they agreed to delivering something that was clearly undeliverable. If Regis le bris said I’ll get promoted this season win champions league inside 3 seasons you’d think he was nuts,

 

[bomber]

What should have happened is Nissan and the likes should have said from day one we can’t facilitate this.

Makes you wonder how they ever managed to produce over 280,000 Leafs.

 

[Skylon]

Farmers are well thought of hard working industry up at 3/4 am work u til it’s dark etc etc but belive me this labour government will has and will continue to shaft companies etc. What should have happened is Nissan and the likes should have said from day one we can’t facilitate this. That’s the responsibility of the top bosses to have the foresight to say this isn’t doable and they haven’t and that could be detrimental to its future. If you agree to deliver you have to deliver. No one else gets away with excuses if you say you can then do it, if not suffer the consequences. I for one think Nissan is crucial to the area but senior management have to be looked at as to why they agreed to delivering something that was clearly undeliverable. If Regis le bris said I’ll get promoted this season win champions league inside 3 seasons you’d think he was nuts,

What has inheritance tax for rich farmers got to do with Nissan?

 

[Libertine]

I for one think Nissan is crucial to the area but senior management have to be looked at as to why they agreed to delivering something that was clearly undeliverable

Just for the record, but i'm sure your fully aware, it's Japan where these promises were made, not Sunderland. Promises which were repeated less than six weeks ago.
From Nov 2023
Today's announcement follows Nissan's confirmation that all its new cars in Europe from now will be fully electric, and that it expects its passenger car line-up in Europe to be 100% electric by 2030. It also builds on Nissan's Ambition 2030 vision to become a truly sustainable company, driving towards a cleaner, safer, and more inclusive world.
From Oct 12th 2024
Nissan has recommitted to selling only zero-emission electric cars by 2030 in Britain and Europe despite a volatile sales market in which the growth in registrations of battery vehicles has caused leading rivals to rein back on their pledges.

 

[gazza2111]

Makes you wonder how they ever managed to produce over 280,000 Leafs.

We built 270,000 but it took 11 years to do that. If NMUK thinks PZ1D will save the company they are living in cuckooland !!!

 

[yamar1]

I'm a year into driving an EV and have spent less than £200 on electricity to do 8000 miles.

The dinosaurs pumping dead dinosaurs into their cars obviously struggle with maths

How much did the car cost you?

 

[Steve 10]

What has inheritance tax for rich farmers got to do with Nissan?

Asset rich. Cash poor.