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West_Winger said:
Not even close. Just because he’s owed £140 million in loans (plus the £90 million he paid) it doesn’t mean the club is worth that much otherwise we’d have been valued at £150 million. Newcastle is simply not worth more than 4x what he paid for it.
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He bought the club for £140m, with a debt of £70m, although he later claimed once he purchased it he found the debt to be £100m.
 
Secret Visage said:
Jim Branning's latest meltdoon.

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Michael Martin Retweeted The Chronicle

Why is The Chronicle doing this? They know Charnley didn't GET Rafa. Rafa GOT
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Charnley did GET McClaren tho
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So, Benitez employed himself? He's the Pied Piper of the Imbecilic.

At least he's not typing about our finances or Adam Johnson so the medication may be kicking in.
 
What A Waster said:
Forbes and Price of Football both value nufc around £270m. Not even twice what he paid. Clearly dependent on PL status though. Add in his debt of £140m and it comes in at £400m.
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It's only worth what someone else is prepared to pay for it.
Staveley couldn't find enough down the back of the sofa to tempt Ashley, Kenyon seemingly can't find anyone to back him as it's all gone quiet and Ashley pissed the Man City owners off preferring an extra hour in the pub by all accounts.

Step forward Sir Mike of Ashley.
 
Secret Visage said:
It's only worth what someone else is prepared to pay for it.
Staveley could find enough down the back of the sofa to tempt Ashley, Kenyon seemingly can't find anyone to back him as it's all gone quiet and Ashley pissed the Man City owners off preferring an extra hour in the pub by all accounts.

Step forward Sir Mike of Ashley.
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According to the interview Stavely done, the group she represented met his valuation in a few ways, either the cash purchase for a lesser amount or the installments for a higher amount. The conditions set out by Ashley. He then decided he didn't want to sell. He also claimed there were other offers on the table which turned out to be lies.

As for the Peter Kenyon story I wouldn't believe that for a second. Why would the story come out of an embryonic bid? He didn't even have a consortium together. It's like me announcing I'm gonna buy it, just looking for financial backers
 
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What A Waster said:
According to the interview Stavely done, the group she represented met his valuation in a few ways, either the cash purchase for a lesser amount or the instalments for a higher amount. The conditions set out by Ashley. He then decided he didn't want to sell. He also claimed there were other offers on the table which turned out to be lies.
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According to Staveley. Does anyone know how trustworthy she is?
She appears to enjoy the limelight as the same happened with Liverpool.
 
What A Waster said:
According to the interview Stavely done, the group she represented met his valuation in a few ways, either the cash purchase for a lesser amount or the installments for a higher amount. The conditions set out by Ashley. He then decided he didn't want to sell. He also claimed there were other offers on the table which turned out to be lies.

As for the Peter Kenyon story I wouldn't believe that for a second. Why would the story come out of an embryonic bid? He didn't even have a consortium together. It's like me announcing I'm gonna buy it, just looking for financial backers
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So a cash purchase for a lesser amounts meets his valuation? :lol:
 
Father Jack Hackett said:
According to Staveley. Does anyone know how trustworthy she is?
She appears to enjoy the limelight as the same happened with Liverpool.
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Well there's a story from the Polygon consortium fronted by Steve McMahon who were looking to buy it but then when it looked like it could happen, Ashley pulled the plug.
Barry Moat attempting to buy it and Ashley pulling the plug then denying it ever happened.
Stavely saying they met his valuation twice, then Ashley pulling the plug.
The Mansours wanting it until Ashley sabotaged the meeting, a story told by Ashley's man who had brokered the meeting.

So that's 4 times where Ashley has got cold feet, so are the other 3 untrustworthy as well? The common denominator is Ashley pulling out.

Secret Visage said:
So a cash purchase for a lesser amounts meets his valuation? :lol:
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Yes.
He released a statement saying he would accept a lesser value as a single lump sum, or would take a higher amount in installements. The Stavely group offered both.
 
What A Waster said:
Well there's a story from the Polygon consortium fronted by Steve McMahon who were looking to buy it but then when it looked like it could happen, Ashley pulled the plug.
Barry Moat attempting to buy it and Ashley pulling the plug then denying it ever happened.
Stavely saying they met his valuation twice, then Ashley pulling the plug.
The Mansours wanting it until Ashley sabotaged the meeting, a story told by Ashley's man who had brokered the meeting.

So that's 4 times where Ashley has got cold feet, so are the other 3 untrustworthy as well? The common denominator is Ashley pulling out.
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I've no idea regarding the rest but, Staveley turning-up for a televised game in order to attract media attention would have set off alarm bells for me. Also, the fact she was talking about her investors wanting a return before a deal was agreed.
I doubt I'd trust her more than Ashley and I reckon you dodged a bullet.
 
Father Jack Hackett said:
I've no idea regarding the rest but, Staveley turning-up for a televised game in order to attract media attention would have set off alarm bells for me. Also, the fact she was talking about her investors wanting a return before a deal was agreed.
I doubt I'd trust her more than Ashley and I reckon you dodged a bullet.
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Maybe so. Although to be honest anybody but Ashley now. It's going nowhere under him. Total lack of ambition. Even if its somebody worse, just spin the wheel and have a try.
If you were going to leave your wife, you wouldn't just stay with her just in case your next partner was worse.
 
What A Waster said:
Well there's a story from the Polygon consortium fronted by Steve McMahon who were looking to buy it but then when it looked like it could happen, Ashley pulled the plug.
Barry Moat attempting to buy it and Ashley pulling the plug then denying it ever happened.
Stavely saying they met his valuation twice, then Ashley pulling the plug.
The Mansours wanting it until Ashley sabotaged the meeting, a story told by Ashley's man who had brokered the meeting.

So that's 4 times where Ashley has got cold feet, so are the other 3 untrustworthy as well? The common denominator is Ashley pulling out.



Yes.
He released a statement saying he would accept a lesser value as a single lump sum, or would take a higher amount in installements. The Stavely group offered both.
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If they'd met either or both of these valuations then surely he'd have sold?

Something doesn't add up about it all and seeing as they've not been back again (she's a bit of a media whore, so if they had it'd be public) and Ashley still has the club, I'd suggest they couldn't actually back the bid with cash.
 
Secret Visage said:
If they'd met either or both of these valuations then surely he'd have sold?

Something doesn't add up about it all and seeing as they've not been back again (she's a bit of a media whore, so if they had it'd be public) and Ashley still has the club, I'd suggest they couldn't actually back the bid with cash.
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I've just been having a look, first bid was £300m with installments, second bid £350 in installments, 3rd bid £250m cash.
This was the offers made after they'd looked at the books.

There was a mistake i made here, it was that I had Ashley as pricing it at £300m, but apparently he wanted £380m (according to a couple of papers), but not sure if that asking price is true as there's no quotes to say what his actual asking price was.
 
What A Waster said:
According to the interview Stavely done, the group she represented met his valuation in a few ways, either the cash purchase for a lesser amount or the installments for a higher amount. The conditions set out by Ashley. He then decided he didn't want to sell. He also claimed there were other offers on the table which turned out to be lies.
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I’m getting the impression that Ashley now “gets” Newcastle as your lot put it, and just doesn’t want to leave.
 
What A Waster said:
I've just been having a look, first bid was £300m with installments, second bid £350 in installments, 3rd bid £250m cash.
This was the offers made after they'd looked at the books.

There was a mistake i made here, it was that I had Ashley as pricing it at £300m, but apparently he wanted £380m (according to a couple of papers), but not sure if that asking price is true as there's no quotes to say what his actual asking price was.
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So from that they could get together £250 million towards the £380 million asking price.
Or installments, with in all probability using future club income to pay the additional £50 / £100 million to cover it.

Not surprised Ashley said no.
 
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